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-====== Victron & Freedom Won LiFePO4 batteries - Freedom Lite ======+====== Victron & Freedom Won LiFePO4 Batteries - Freedom Lite ======
  
 ===== Installers Note ===== ===== Installers Note =====
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 ===== Introduction ===== ===== Introduction =====
  
-Freedom Won (www.freedomwon.co.za) produces two ranges of LiFePO4 batteries for 48V systems:+Freedom Won (www.freedomwon.co.za) produces two ranges of LiFePO<sub>4</sub> batteries for 12V, 24V and 48V systems:
  
   * Freedom Lite Home and Business: Eight models available ranging from the smallest 5kWh model (Freedom Lite Home 5/4) up to the 80kWh model (Freedom Lite Business 80/64)   * Freedom Lite Home and Business: Eight models available ranging from the smallest 5kWh model (Freedom Lite Home 5/4) up to the 80kWh model (Freedom Lite Business 80/64)
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   * Freedom Lite Commercial:  Ten models available ranging from the 100kWh model (Freedom Lite Commercial 100/80) up to the 700kWh model (Freedom Lite Commercial 700/560).   * Freedom Lite Commercial:  Ten models available ranging from the 100kWh model (Freedom Lite Commercial 100/80) up to the 700kWh model (Freedom Lite Commercial 700/560).
    
-//**Note: Refer to Freedom Won website for detailed specification sheets covering all models** +This documentation makes use of values for 48V systems but values for 12V and 24V systems can be derived from below:
-//+
  
-These Freedom Lite batteries are fully compatible with the Victron MultiPlus, MultiPlus II, MultiPlus II GX, and Quattro inverter/chargers, Solar charge controllers (VE.Direct and VE.CAN), and [[https://www.victronenergy.com/live/venus-os:start|system controllers]] ([[https://www.victronenergy.com/live/ccgx:start|Color Control GX]], Venus GX, Octo GX, [[https://www.victronenergy.com/media/pg/2556-GX_Device_Manual_Cerbo_GX/index.html?lang=en|Cerbo GX]], CANvu GX, Maxi GX).+**12V systems** 
 +  * Float and Bulk Charge Voltage: 14V 
 +  * Cut-out Voltage: 11.5V 
 + 
 +**24V Systems** 
 +  * Float and Bulk Charge Voltage: 28V 
 +  * Cut-out Voltage: 23V 
 + 
 +**Note: Refer to Freedom Won website for detailed specification sheets covering all models** 
 + 
 +These Freedom Lite batteries are fully compatible with the Victron MultiPlus, MultiPlus-II, MultiPlus-II GX, and Quattro inverter/chargers, solar charge controllers (VE.Direct and VE.CAN), and [[https://www.victronenergy.com/live/venus-os:start|system controllers]] ([[https://www.victronenergy.com/live/ccgx:start|Color Control GX]], Venus GX, Octo GX, [[https://www.victronenergy.com/media/pg/2556-GX_Device_Manual_Cerbo_GX/index.html?lang=en|Cerbo GX]], CANvu GX, Maxi GX).
  
 The Freedom Lite batteries contain an advanced battery management system (BMS) that communicates via a CAN Bus protocol with the Victron GX device.  The GX device in turn connects and manages the other compatible devices in the system.   The Freedom Lite batteries contain an advanced battery management system (BMS) that communicates via a CAN Bus protocol with the Victron GX device.  The GX device in turn connects and manages the other compatible devices in the system.  
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 All new Victron equipment as follows is compatible with Freedom Lite: All new Victron equipment as follows is compatible with Freedom Lite:
   * MultiPlus   * MultiPlus
-  * MultiPlus II +  * MultiPlus-II 
-  * MultiPlus GX+  * MultiPlus-II GX
   * Quattro   * Quattro
-  * Blue Solar and Smart Solar VE.Direct MPPTs+  * BlueSolar and SmartSolar VE.Direct MPPTs
   * VE.Can MPPT’s   * VE.Can MPPT’s
   * [[https://www.victronenergy.com/live/venus-os:start|GX-Devices]] (Colour Control, Venus, Octo, Cerbo, CANvu, Maxi)   * [[https://www.victronenergy.com/live/venus-os:start|GX-Devices]] (Colour Control, Venus, Octo, Cerbo, CANvu, Maxi)
  
-//**NOTE**: Certain older MultiPlus and Quattro models containing the smaller microprocessor chip (numbered 19 and 20) are not able to accept the version XXXX4XX firmware and hence are not compatible with the CAN Bus communication from the Freedom Lite battery. +//**NOTE**: Certain older MultiPlus and Quattro models containing the smaller microprocessor chip (numbered 19 and 20) are not able to accept the version XXXX4XX firmware and hence are not compatible with the CAN Bus communication from the Freedom Lite battery.//
-//+
  
 //**NOTE**: If a system includes one or more **VE.CAN MPPTs** please carefully read the section below on VE.CAN MPPTs.// //**NOTE**: If a system includes one or more **VE.CAN MPPTs** please carefully read the section below on VE.CAN MPPTs.//
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 The Freedom Lite transmits, amongst others, the following messages to the [[https://www.victronenergy.com/live/venus-os:start|GX-device]]: The Freedom Lite transmits, amongst others, the following messages to the [[https://www.victronenergy.com/live/venus-os:start|GX-device]]:
  
-  - Adaptive Maximum Charge Voltage Set-point – the value transmitted varies from 54.8V to 55.8V depending on the state of balancing on the particular Lite. Typically a well-balanced Lite battery will request a maximum charge voltage of between 55.0V and 55.8V. This advanced feature is only available from Freedom Won and allows superior system control and optimal battery management. The GX-device uses this set-point to control the real time operating or target voltage of the inverter/charger devices and the MPPTs.  +  - **Adaptive Maximum Charge Voltage Set-point** – the value transmitted varies from 54.8V to 55.8V depending on the state of balancing on the particular Lite. Typically a well-balanced Lite battery will request a maximum charge voltage of between 55.0V and 55.8V. This advanced feature is only available from Freedom Won and allows superior system control and optimal battery management. The GX-device uses this set-point to control the real time operating or target voltage of the inverter/charger devices and the MPPTs.  
-  - Charge Current Limit (CCL) – this is the maximum current that the battery will accept at any given time stated in Amps. This is a secondary control feature behind the more effective maximum charge voltage control method. This value reduces as the battery approaches 100% State of Charge (SoC). The GX-device uses this value to ensure that the combined Victron system of inverter/chargers and MPPT’s does not exceed the CCL of the Lite. If the CCL drops to zero, the Victron system within a few seconds will ensure that there is no net current flow into the Lite.  + 
-  - Discharge Current Limit (DCL) – this is the maximum discharge current that the battery is prepared to accept at any given time. This value typically decreases as the battery drops below 10% SoC. The Victron inverter cannot enforce a variable DCL unless in ESS mode were an AC input source can be used to supplement the power to the loads. If there is no AC input source the inverter will stop supplying power to the loads as soon as the DCL drops to zero.+ 
 +  - **Charge Current Limit (CCL)** – this is the maximum current that the battery will accept at any given time stated in Amps. This is a secondary control feature behind the more effective maximum charge voltage control method. This value reduces as the battery approaches 100% State of Charge (SoC). The GX-device uses this value to ensure that the combined Victron system of inverter/chargers and MPPT’s does not exceed the CCL of the Lite. If the CCL drops to zero, the Victron system within a few seconds will ensure that there is no net current flow into the Lite.  
 + 
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 +  - **Discharge Current Limit (DCL)** – this is the maximum discharge current that the battery is prepared to accept at any given time. This value typically decreases as the battery drops below 10% SoC. The Victron inverter cannot enforce a variable DCL unless in ESS mode were an AC input source can be used to supplement the power to the loads. If there is no AC input source the inverter will stop supplying power to the loads as soon as the DCL drops to zero.
   - Additional Battery Information   - Additional Battery Information
     - Battery temperature     - Battery temperature
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 **Note:** In the case of the Venus GX or Octo GX, if the VE.CAN ports (RJ45) are being used by MPPTs, the secondary CAN bus needs to be connected using the green terminal blocks.  If you require any information on how to do this, contact Freedom Won support at support@freedomwon.co.za **Note:** In the case of the Venus GX or Octo GX, if the VE.CAN ports (RJ45) are being used by MPPTs, the secondary CAN bus needs to be connected using the green terminal blocks.  If you require any information on how to do this, contact Freedom Won support at support@freedomwon.co.za
  
-**Note:** When using a Cerbo GX use the 'BMS-CANport for the battery and configure that port to 500kpbs, the Cerbo GX has RJ45 ports for both CANbus channels.+**Note:** When using a Cerbo GX use the BMS-CAN port for the battery and configure that port to 500kpbs, the Cerbo GX has RJ45 ports for both CANbus channels.
  
 If multiple batteries are installed in parallel the second RJ45 socket is used to link the next battery in the line onto the CAN Bus network. The termination resistor is installed in the last battery in the CAN Bus line. Refer to Lite installation manual for further information.  If multiple batteries are installed in parallel the second RJ45 socket is used to link the next battery in the line onto the CAN Bus network. The termination resistor is installed in the last battery in the CAN Bus line. Refer to Lite installation manual for further information. 
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 ☛ When setting up the ESS Assistant select LiFePO4 battery and enter the Ah value for the Lite (or the combination of Lite’s for a parallel battery system) as per the Ah rating provided in the Lite specification sheet eg. Lite 5/4 = 100Ah.  ☛ When setting up the ESS Assistant select LiFePO4 battery and enter the Ah value for the Lite (or the combination of Lite’s for a parallel battery system) as per the Ah rating provided in the Lite specification sheet eg. Lite 5/4 = 100Ah. 
 +
 +**Important**: After setting the battery capacity in the ESS Assistant DO NOT disable the Battery Monitor on the General tab as it clears the battery size from the ESS Assistant.
  
 {{:battery_compatibility:freedom_won_ve_config_5.png?direct|}} {{:battery_compatibility:freedom_won_ve_config_5.png?direct|}}
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 //**Note**: For systems with VE Can MPPT's and only one CAN-port (CCGX), select 250kbit/s and ensure Lite profile is also set for 250kbit/s (check with Freedom Won or your Freedom Won distributor). //**Note**: For systems with VE Can MPPT's and only one CAN-port (CCGX), select 250kbit/s and ensure Lite profile is also set for 250kbit/s (check with Freedom Won or your Freedom Won distributor).
-All other GX devices have dual CAN-ports or a CAN-port that only supports 500kbit/s (GX version of inverters) so on those systems BMS-CAN should be set at 500kbps// +All other GX devices have dual CAN-ports or a CAN-port that only supports 500kbit/s (GX version of inverters) so on those systems BMS-CAN should be set at 500kbps//
  
 {{ :battery_compatibility:venus-1.png?direct&600 |}} {{ :battery_compatibility:venus-1.png?direct&600 |}}
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 {{ :battery_compatibility:venus-2.png?direct&600 |}} {{ :battery_compatibility:venus-2.png?direct&600 |}}
  
-☛ Freedom Lite → Parameters → Confirm that the Charge Current Limit and Discharge Current Limit are as per the Lite specifications (Note: if the battery is fully charged the CCL may be reduced. Check that the voltage target is within the range 54.8V to 55.8V (Note: below about 95% SoC the value reflected should be 55.7 or 55.8V. For a fully charged battery this value should range from 55.0V to 55.8V depending on the state of balancing of the cells in the Lite.+☛ Freedom Lite → Parameters → Confirm that the Charge Current Limit and Discharge Current Limit are as per the Lite specifications
 + 
 +Note: If the battery is fully charged the CCL may be reduced. Check that the voltage target is within the range 54.8V to 55.8V (Note: below about 95% SoC the value reflected should be 55.7 or 55.8V. For a fully charged battery this value should range from 55.0V to 55.8V depending on the state of balancing of the cells in the Lite.
  
 ☛ Confirm that DVCC is forced on at: Settings → DVCC ☛ Confirm that DVCC is forced on at: Settings → DVCC
  
 {{ :battery_compatibility:venus-3.png?direct&600 |}}  {{ :battery_compatibility:venus-3.png?direct&600 |}} 
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 +☛ Use "Keep Batteries Charged" or "Optimised with BatteryLife" if ESS is being used: Settings → ESS
 +
 +BatteryLife is mandatory for Freedom Lite batteries that are being cycled. This is to prevent long durations without the battery seeing 100% charge, and this in turn eliminates SoC drift issues that creep in after several days without the battery having reached 100% SoC.
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 +{{ :battery_compatibility:screenshot_2021-04-13_at_01.08.00.png?direct&600 |}}
  
 ===== MPPT Configuration ===== ===== MPPT Configuration =====
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 Should any difficulties arise with the Freedom Lite to Victron interface please contact [[support@freedomwon.co.za]] for assistance.  Should any difficulties arise with the Freedom Lite to Victron interface please contact [[support@freedomwon.co.za]] for assistance. 
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 ===== DISQUS ===== ===== DISQUS =====
 ~~DISQUS~~ ~~DISQUS~~
  
battery_compatibility/freedomwon.txt · Last modified: 2021-04-13 01:29 by warwickchapman