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 SOC stands for State of Charge. The BMV SOC is the state of charge measured by the BMV Battery Monitor. It calculates this value based on measurements taken by the shunt. And, assuming the shunt is installed in the correct place in the system, it takes into account all the loads and chargers. SOC stands for State of Charge. The BMV SOC is the state of charge measured by the BMV Battery Monitor. It calculates this value based on measurements taken by the shunt. And, assuming the shunt is installed in the correct place in the system, it takes into account all the loads and chargers.
  
-The SOC taken from VE.Bus is calculated by our Multis and Quattros. To calculate the SOC, they use only the internally measured charge and discharge currents. Because of this you can only use it in a system where you have only AC loadsand no other (solar) chargers. The battery capacity can be configured with VEConfigure.+The SOC taken from VE.Bus is calculated by our Multis and Quattros. To calculate the SOC, they use only the internally measured charge and discharge currents. Because of this you can only use it for some system typessee [[https://www.victronenergy.com/live/ccgx:start#battery_state_of_charge_soc|here for which ones]]. The battery capacity can be configured with VEConfigure.
  
 **BMV SOC vs VE.Bus SOC algorithm**  The BMV has the advantage in its calculations that it sees all DC currents: so this includes MPPT solar charger currents, DC loads (typical in marine and automotive applications, for example alternators, lights and pumps), or other DC chargers. The Multi and Quattro have the advantage that it knows when the bulk state is finished, and can then sync the VE.Bus state of charge to 80%. Instead of (as the BMV does) having to wait until the battery is really full (sync parameters are met), and only then will it sync to 100%. **BMV SOC vs VE.Bus SOC algorithm**  The BMV has the advantage in its calculations that it sees all DC currents: so this includes MPPT solar charger currents, DC loads (typical in marine and automotive applications, for example alternators, lights and pumps), or other DC chargers. The Multi and Quattro have the advantage that it knows when the bulk state is finished, and can then sync the VE.Bus state of charge to 80%. Instead of (as the BMV does) having to wait until the battery is really full (sync parameters are met), and only then will it sync to 100%.
  
-See also [[ccgx:ccgx_faq#do_i_need_a_bmv_to_see_proper_battery_state_of_charge_or_not]]+See also [[https://www.victronenergy.com/live/ccgx:start#battery_state_of_charge_soc]]
  
 ===== What are the requirements for the Solar yield and Consumption tab? ===== ===== What are the requirements for the Solar yield and Consumption tab? =====
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-These graphs work on information calculated by the Color Control GX, based on energy counter values read from connected devices.+These graphs work on information calculated by the GX device (Cerbo GX or Venus GX), based on energy counter values read from connected devices.
  
 General requirements: General requirements:
-  * Color Control GX with latest version+  * [[venus-os:start|GX device]] eg Cerbo GX with latest version
   * Multi or Quattro with a 26 or 27 hardware: the 7 digit firmware number needs to start with 26 or 27. If it starts with 19 or 20, the product has old hardware. To get the consumption and solar yield tabs working for these products, the product needs to be replaced or get an control board upgrade.   * Multi or Quattro with a 26 or 27 hardware: the 7 digit firmware number needs to start with 26 or 27. If it starts with 19 or 20, the product has old hardware. To get the consumption and solar yield tabs working for these products, the product needs to be replaced or get an control board upgrade.
   * Multi or Quattro firmware needs to be recent as well:   * Multi or Quattro firmware needs to be recent as well:
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   * PV Inverter power and energy needs to be measured. For example a [[ccgx:ccgx_fronius|direct Fronius connection]], or with our [[https://www.victronenergy.com/accessories/AC-Current-sensor|AC Current Sensor]] or [[https://www.victronenergy.com/accessories/wireless-AC-sensor|wireless AC Sensors]]   * PV Inverter power and energy needs to be measured. For example a [[ccgx:ccgx_fronius|direct Fronius connection]], or with our [[https://www.victronenergy.com/accessories/AC-Current-sensor|AC Current Sensor]] or [[https://www.victronenergy.com/accessories/wireless-AC-sensor|wireless AC Sensors]]
-  * There's an issue with hub-4 systems where grid power and PV power are measured using a single AC sensor (grid on phase 1 and PV power on phase 2). In this case the solar to grid value is incorrect. We are working on a solution of this issue.+  * There's an issue when a single EM24 three phase meter is used to measure both gridand PV-power (grid on its phase 1 terminals and PV power on phase 2). In this case the solar to grid value is incorrect. The solution is to use an ET340 or ET112. See [[energy-meters:start|Energy Meters]] for details.
   * When using the AC Current Sensor, make sure to use the latest version of the Assistant, as released in October 2014. [[https://www.victronenergy.com/blog/2014/10/13/ac-current-sensor-assistant-no-more-pv-power-at-night/|more info]]   * When using the AC Current Sensor, make sure to use the latest version of the Assistant, as released in October 2014. [[https://www.victronenergy.com/blog/2014/10/13/ac-current-sensor-assistant-no-more-pv-power-at-night/|more info]]
  
-Other notes:+=== 'Has DC system' related limitations === 
 +‘Has DC system’ is a feature on a GX device. When that config switch is enabled, a new box called 'DC Power' appears on the GX display. Its value is calculated from the differential between the power measured by the bms or battery monitor, and the power flow measured by the inverter/charger and other sources that are actively monitored by the GX. Its typical use is in Marine and Automotive applications, as they have alternators, and lights, fridges, and many more DC loads. For more details, see the GX device manual.
  
-  * DC consumption or charging, for example by an alternator or other charger that is not reporting to the CCGX, is not yet taken into account in the calculations+  * If this feature is enabled, and the used battery monitor is a BMV 700 or 712then the minimum required BMV firmware version to make the VRM Energy dashboards operate correctly is v3.08. 
-  * A system with multiple mppts, even a mix of VE.Can and VE.Direct, is supported: the algorithm will totalize all the counters+  * The calculated value for 'DC Power' is not used in any way by the GXbeyond just being displayed 'on screen'. In particular it is not logged on the VRM portal and it is not included in system calculation and it does not appear as part of the recorded Solar Yield. 
 + 
 +=== Other limitations ===  
 +  * A system with multiple MPPTs, even a mix of VE.Can and VE.Direct, is supported: the algorithm will totalize all the counters - as long as they are all actively monitored.
   * Multiple AC current sensors measuring multiple PV inverters is supported as well.   * Multiple AC current sensors measuring multiple PV inverters is supported as well.
-  * Other brands (not VictronSolar Chargers will not work: the CCGX needs to read the kWh data from the solar charger+  * These overviews work correctly when Victron Solar Chargers are used. When one or more non-Victron solar chargers are used, the system cannot read their Energy yields, and because of that the resulting overviews are incorrect and unreliable
-  * The VGR, VGR2 and VER do not work: only the CCGX provides the necessary kWh data for these graphs+  * The VGR, VGR2 and VER do not provide any energy data data. 
-  * Combining MPPT Solar Chargers and PV Inverters in a system works. +  * Combining MPPT Solar Chargers and PV Inverters in a system is supported.
- +
-===== How does the system overview work? Old products are still showing ===== +
- +
-This is the system overview on the VRM Portal: +
- +
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-It shows all products, their firmware version and some other additional information. After disconnecting a product from the Color Control GX or the Victron Global Remote, it is necessary to power cycle it (the CCGX or VGR)This will make the VRM Portal to empty the list and re-populate it based on the new information.+Note that the same data used to show these energy graphs is also available as a downloadSee the Advanced tab on VRM, and then the download icon on the top right.
  
 ===== How does the screensaver work? How is the displayed state determined? ===== ===== How does the screensaver work? How is the displayed state determined? =====
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 The screensaver is disabled by default but can be configured in your profile settings to automatically show after a period of inactivity. You can also open the screensaver directly by pressing the "s" key twice. The screensaver is disabled by default but can be configured in your profile settings to automatically show after a period of inactivity. You can also open the screensaver directly by pressing the "s" key twice.
  
-The screensaver displays which source of energy your site is currently running on. This is determined by looking at which source of energy (the sources being solar, generator, battery and grid) is delivering the largest amount of energy to consumers (locally connected devices using the energy). Then, if no consumers are using any power, it looks at which source provides the largest amount of energy to the battery. Then, if no battery is connected or it is not being charged, it looks at which source is delivering the most energy back to the grid. If at this point the source is still not determined, apparently no energy is being produced or used anywhere, and the state defaults to 'on grid'.+The screensaver displays which source of energy your installation is currently running on. This is determined by looking at which source of energy (the sources being solar, generator, battery and grid) is delivering the largest amount of energy to consumers (locally connected devices using the energy). Then, if no consumers are using any power, it looks at which source provides the largest amount of energy to the battery. Then, if no battery is connected or it is not being charged, it looks at which source is delivering the most energy back to the grid. If at this point the source is still not determined, apparently no energy is being produced or used anywhere, and the state defaults to 'on grid'.
  
  
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 Open the Advanced tab, choose a date range, and then use the Download CSV or Download XLS link at the top right. Open the Advanced tab, choose a date range, and then use the Download CSV or Download XLS link at the top right.
  
 +Please note: Safari is not downloading the files properly right now, please try Chrome or Firefox
  
-===== How can I remove a site from my account? =====+===== How can I remove an installation from my account? ===== 
 + 
 +Go to the tab Settings –> General and scroll to the bottom of that page, then click the 'Remove' button. This will unlink the installation from your account. 
 + 
 +===== How can I move an installation's history from one GX device to another? ===== 
 + 
 +You will need to connect the new GX device to the internet, and register it. Take note of the VRM Portal id. 
 + 
 +Then open the old site on VRM, and go to **Settings** -> **General**. 
 + 
 +There is an option there **Replace the GX device of this installation**. 
 + 
 +This will explain the steps of the procedure.
  
-Go to the tab Settings –> General and scroll to the bottom of that page, then click the 'Remove' button. This will unlink the site from your account. 
  
 ===== Why are some values shown red? ===== ===== Why are some values shown red? =====
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 In case the data is too old, which means older than would have been expected from the configured logging interval, the value will be shown red. Use the System overview page to check if there are products that are not connected anymore. One typical example where this might happen is: In case the data is too old, which means older than would have been expected from the configured logging interval, the value will be shown red. Use the System overview page to check if there are products that are not connected anymore. One typical example where this might happen is:
  
-The system has been connected to a three phase system, and now it is connected to a single phase system. But the data for L2 and L3 is still being shown in a red color. Reboot the gateway (Color Control, Global Remote or Ethernet Remote) to reset the data.+The system has been connected to a three phase system, and now it is connected to a single phase system. But the data for L2 and L3 is still being shown in a red color. Reboot the gateway (Cerbo GX, Global Remote or Ethernet Remote) to reset the data.
  
 ===== For how long is the data being stored? ===== ===== For how long is the data being stored? =====
  
-The data shown in the advanced tab is being stored for at least 6 months. The data used to show the solar yield and the consumption tab is stored 5 years minimum.+The data shown in the advanced tab is being stored for at least 6 months, with exception of Battery state of charge. 
 + 
 +The data used to show the solar yield and the consumption tab (kWh data) is stored 5 years minimum.
  
 ===== How can I zoom out any of the graphs? ===== ===== How can I zoom out any of the graphs? =====
  
-The graphs can be zoomed out to their original zoom level by double-clicking anywhere in the graph.+The graphs can be zoomed out to their original zoom level by clicking the 'options' and then the 'Reset zoom' button in the graph.
  
 ===== Why do I get such a weird high value for AC Input when a PV inverter is feeding back to the grid through the Multi? ===== ===== Why do I get such a weird high value for AC Input when a PV inverter is feeding back to the grid through the Multi? =====
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 VGRs, VGR2s and VERs interpret this value incorrectly. They show around 650 Amps instead of -5 Amps. VGRs, VGR2s and VERs interpret this value incorrectly. They show around 650 Amps instead of -5 Amps.
  
-If you really want to see the right data, replace the VGR/VGR2/VER with a Color Control GX.+If you really want to see the right data, replace the VGR/VGR2/VER with a Cerbo GX.
  
 ===== What is the column logtime Offset in the XLS/CSV download for? ===== ===== What is the column logtime Offset in the XLS/CSV download for? =====
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 The values relate to the backlog feature. Usually the column is either empty, or you see series of rows with a decreasing logtime offset. Once zero, the columns are empty again. These series mean that there was a problem with the Internet connection. And the value shown is the number of seconds for which that particular row of data had been backlogged. The values relate to the backlog feature. Usually the column is either empty, or you see series of rows with a decreasing logtime offset. Once zero, the columns are empty again. These series mean that there was a problem with the Internet connection. And the value shown is the number of seconds for which that particular row of data had been backlogged.
  
 +===== How can I change my email address, or add new additional users? =====
 +
 +Login to VRM with the existing account, invite the new email address (Settings -> Users -> Invite). {{:vrm_portal:victron_-_add_new_users_to_vrm.gif?linkonly| See this video example.}}
 +
 +If the new user will be an Admin, you will need to enable full control.
 +
 +That is all, there will be an email sent to the new email address and you can use that to login.
 +
 +There is no option to delete the old account, though it can be removed from a specific installation. 
 +
 +No data will be lost during this procedure.
 +
 +===== How can I upload very large database files to the VRM with a 200MB upload limit? =====
 +The VRM Portal only allows up to 200MB uploads for GX device data files. The portal will accept gzip files, so you can compress the databases and then upload those. A compressed 200MB file can contain up to a year or more worth of data!
 +
 +===== I have just connected my GX device after not being online for a long time, why is it not updating? =====
 +
 +The first thing to check is the VRM menu to make sure that the VRM is connected and communicating - if it isn't, follow the [[https://www.victronenergy.com/media/pg/Cerbo_GX/en/vrm-portal.html#UUID-5667f877-3cf4-18d8-3f43-2e6ab2843066|troubleshooting here]].
 +
 +If you are seeing that the GX device is connecting to VRM, then it can take up to a few hours or more for the data to sync to VRM and for the updates to show, depending on how much data there is to catch up. If it still has not got up to date after 24 hours of connection time - try asking for more help on http://community.victronenergy.com
 +
 +===== Why can't I get push notifications in my Chrome browser on a Apple Mac? =====
 +
 +There are two possible reasons why you don't receive notifications:
 +  - Chrome is not allowed to show notifications on macOS
 +  - Chrome has disabled notifications in the app settings
  
 +Allow Chrome to send notifications to the macOS Notification Center by opening System Preferences -> Notifications in macOS. Then scroll down to Google Chrome and turn on "Allow notifications".
  
-===== DISQUS ===== +Also make sure Notifications are enabled in the Chrome app settings (in the Chrome app go to Settings -> Content -> Notifications) and the VRM domain is allowed to send notifications. Check out [[https://community.victronenergy.com/questions/170509/troubleshooting-issues-with-vrm-app-push-notificat.html?childToView=171517#answer-171517|this Community post]] that explains this process in more detail.
-~~DISQUS~~+
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