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mkuiken [3.1 VE.Smart Networking compatible products]
victronconnect:ve-smart-networking [2019-10-10 13:58] (current)
mvader [3.1 VE.Smart Networking products compatibility]
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 ===== 3. Specifications ===== ===== 3. Specifications =====
  
-==== 3.1 VE.Smart Networking ​compatible ​products ==== +==== 3.1 VE.Smart Networking products ​compatibility ​====
- +
-^Product range     ^ Compatible ^ [[https://​www.victronenergy.com/​accessories/​ve-direct-bluetooth-smart-dongle|Requires VE.Direct Bluetooth Smart dongle]] ^ Function ^ +
-|BMV-700 ​          | Yes | Yes | Voltage-sense | +
-|BMV-702 ​          | Yes | Yes | Voltage-sense,​ and (optionally) temperature ​ <sup> (1)</​sup>​ | +
-|BMV-712 ​          | Yes | No, has built in bluetooth | Voltage-sense,​ and (optionally) temperature <sup> (1)</​sup>​ | +
-|SmartSolar MPPTs  | Yes <sup> (2)</​sup>​| No, has built in bluetooth | Uses received sense data to optimize charging | +
-|BlueSolar MPPTs   | Yes | Yes | Uses received sense data to optimize charging |+
  
 +^Product range     ^ Compatible ^ Function ^
 +|BMV-700 ​          | Yes (requires [[https://​www.victronenergy.com/​accessories/​ve-direct-bluetooth-smart-dongle|dongle accessory]]) | Transmit voltage-sense |
 +|BMV-702 ​          | Yes (requires [[https://​www.victronenergy.com/​accessories/​ve-direct-bluetooth-smart-dongle|dongle accessory]]) | Transmit voltage-sense,​ and (optionally) temperature ​ <sup> (1)</​sup>​ |
 +|BMV-712 ​          | Yes | Transmit voltage-sense,​ and (optionally) temperature <sup> (1)</​sup>​ |
 +|SmartSolar MPPTs  | Yes <sup> (2)</​sup>​ | Uses received sense data to optimize charging |
 +|BlueSolar MPPTs   | Yes | Uses received sense data to optimize charging |
 +|Phoenix Smart IP43 Charger ​  | No | Not yet supported, may be compatible in the future |
 +|Orion-Tr Smart DC-DC Charger Isolated ​  | No | Not yet supported, may be compatible in the future |
 +|Blue Smart Chargers IP22, IP65 and IP67   | No | Not yet supported, may be compatible in the future |
  
   - To measure battery temperature,​ the [[https://​www.victronenergy.com/​accessories/​temperature-sensor-for-bmv-702|BMV series temperature sensor is required]].   - To measure battery temperature,​ the [[https://​www.victronenergy.com/​accessories/​temperature-sensor-for-bmv-702|BMV series temperature sensor is required]].
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-All new SmartSolar ​MPPT'​s ​support VE.Smart Networking. However some older versions of our hardware ​do **not** support VE.Smart Networking. ​list of the older //​incompatible//​ products and part-numbers - together with the part numbers of their compatible successors ​is as follows ​:+=== First production batches of SmartSolar MPPTs do not support VE.Smart Networking === 
 + 
 +All currently shipping ​SmartSolar ​MPPTs support VE.Smart Networking. However some older versions of those models ​do **not** support VE.Smart Networking. ​Those devices will also not become compatible later with a firmware update: the incompatibility is due to a hardware limitation in those devices. There is a work around: connect a [[https://​www.victronenergy.com/​accessories/​ve-direct-bluetooth-smart-dongle|VE.Direct Bluetooth Smart dongle]]. This **enables** VE.Smart Networking support. Both Voltage and Temperature sense will work. In such scenario the internal Bluetooth interface of the SmartSolar should not be used anymore as communication errors may occur - instead the VE.Direct Bluetooth Smart dongle is to be used when connecting by phone or tablet. This is the list of the older //​incompatible//​ products and part-numbers - together with the part numbers of their compatible successors:
 ^Product ​                           ^ Old Incompatible Part-number ​  ^ New Compatible Part-number ^ ^Product ​                           ^ Old Incompatible Part-number ​  ^ New Compatible Part-number ^
 |VE.Direct Bluetooth Smart dongle ​ |ASS030536010 |ASS030536011 | |VE.Direct Bluetooth Smart dongle ​ |ASS030536010 |ASS030536011 |
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 |SmartSolar MPPT 250/​100 ​         |SCC125110210 (before s/n HQ1811) \\ SCC125110310 (before s/n HQ1811)|SCC125110210 (after s/n HQ1811) \\ SCC125110310 (after s/n HQ1811) | |SmartSolar MPPT 250/​100 ​         |SCC125110210 (before s/n HQ1811) \\ SCC125110310 (before s/n HQ1811)|SCC125110210 (after s/n HQ1811) \\ SCC125110310 (after s/n HQ1811) |
    
-Note that when listed as not compatible; they will also not become compatible later. The incompatibility is due to a hardware limitation in those devices. 
  
-Also note that connecting a VE.Direct Bluetooth Smart dongle (ASS030536011) to an incompatible SmartSolar charger, will **enable** VE.Smart Networking support for the SmartSolar (Voltage and Temperature sense). In such scenario the internal Bluetooth interface of the SmartSolar should not be used anymore as communication errors may occur - instead the VE.Direct Bluetooth Smart dongle is to be used when connecting by phone or tablet.+ 
 + 
 ==== 3.2 Limitations ==== ==== 3.2 Limitations ====
   * The maximum number of devices which can be connected on one network is 25.   * The maximum number of devices which can be connected on one network is 25.
-  * VE.Smart Networking is designed for small systems which do not have a [[venus-os:​start|Venus-device]] - such as a Color Control GX or Venus GX. In systems which have a [[venus-os:​start|Venus-device]], do not use VE.Smart Networking - [[https://​www.victronenergy.com/​live/​victronconnect:​ve-smart-networking#​faq|See FAQ 6.]]+  * VE.Smart Networking is designed for small systems which do not have a [[venus-os:​start|GX device]] - such as a Color Control GX or Venus GX. In systems which have a [[venus-os:​start|GX device]], do not use VE.Smart Networking - [[https://​www.victronenergy.com/​live/​victronconnect:​ve-smart-networking#​faq|See FAQ 6.]]
   * The transmitter range will be found to be the same as the Bluetooth range - as experienced when connecting a device to //​VictronConnect//​.   * The transmitter range will be found to be the same as the Bluetooth range - as experienced when connecting a device to //​VictronConnect//​.
 ===== 4. Step by step instructions ===== ===== 4. Step by step instructions =====
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 Yes. In this instance it will simply act as a voltage- and temperature-measuring device. Note that the functionality is limited in that it does not (yet) show the graphs or other data which would normally be generated from these measurements. Yes. In this instance it will simply act as a voltage- and temperature-measuring device. Note that the functionality is limited in that it does not (yet) show the graphs or other data which would normally be generated from these measurements.
  
-=== Q6: Can I use Smart Battery Sense in systems already controlled by a CCGX/Venus GX? ===+=== Q6: Can I use Smart Battery Sense in systems already controlled by a GX device (eg CCGX/VenusGX)? ===
  
-No. The CCGX/​Venus ​GX already has voltage sensing (soon they will have temperature sensing too). Adding Smart Battery Sense to the installation will confuse the voltage-sensing data. For further information please see: [[https://​www.victronenergy.com/​live/​ccgx:​start#​dvcc_-_distributed_voltage_and_current_control|CCGX/​Distributed Voltage and Current Control.]]+No. The GX device ​already has voltage sensing (soon they will have temperature sensing too). Adding Smart Battery Sense to the installation will confuse the voltage-sensing data. For further information please see: [[https://​www.victronenergy.com/​live/​ccgx:​start#​dvcc_-_distributed_voltage_and_current_control|CCGX/​Distributed Voltage and Current Control.]]
  
 ===== DISQUS ===== ===== DISQUS =====
 ~~DISQUS~~ ~~DISQUS~~
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