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-====== VE.Smart Networking ======
+Moved to: https://www.victronenergy.com/media/pg/VE.Smart_Networking/en/index-en.html
-===== 1. Introduction =====
-A VE.Smart Network is a wireless network which allows a number of Victron products to exchange information. It is a wireless technology using Bluetooth Smart.
-Use VE.Smart to add remote voltage- and temperature- sensing to your Victron MPPT Solar Chargers. Connect either a BMV battery monitor - or the new [[https://www.victronenergy.com/accessories/smart-battery-sense|Smart Battery Sense]], to a Solar Charger. The Solar Charger will receive battery voltage & temperature information, and use that data to optimize its charge parameters. This will improve charging-efficiency and prolong battery life.
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-===== 2. Voltage and temperature sense - further details =====
-The battery voltage data is used to compensate for voltage-drop over the battery cables. This ensures that the battery is charged with the exact voltage as configured in the charger - instead of a lower voltage due to resistance in the wiring.
-The battery temperature data is used to adjust the charge voltages. When cold, a lead/acid battery typically needs a higher charge-voltage ...and a lower charge-voltage when it's hot.
-For lithium batteries the charge-voltages remain the same at all temperatures, as long as it’s not //too// cold. Its better to not charge Ltihium batteries below 5C, to prevent them from being damaged and degraded.
-===== 3. Specifications =====
-==== 3.1 VE.Smart Networking products compatibility ====
-^Product range     ^ Compatible ^ Function ^
-|BMV-700           | Yes (requires [[https://www.victronenergy.com/accessories/ve-direct-bluetooth-smart-dongle|dongle accessory]]) | Transmit voltage-sense |
-|BMV-702           | Yes (requires [[https://www.victronenergy.com/accessories/ve-direct-bluetooth-smart-dongle|dongle accessory]]) | Transmit voltage-sense, and (optionally) temperature  <sup> (1)</sup> |
-|BMV-712           | Yes | Transmit voltage-sense, and (optionally) temperature <sup> (1)</sup> |
-|SmartSolar MPPTs  | Yes <sup> (2)</sup> | Uses received sense data to optimize charging |
-|BlueSolar MPPTs   | Yes | Uses received sense data to optimize charging |
-|Phoenix Smart IP43 Charger   | No | Not yet supported, may be compatible in the future |
-|Orion-Tr Smart DC-DC Charger Isolated   | No | Not yet supported, may be compatible in the future |
-|Blue Smart Chargers IP22, IP65 and IP67   | No | Not yet supported, may be compatible in the future |
-  - To measure battery temperature, the [[https://www.victronenergy.com/accessories/temperature-sensor-for-bmv-702|BMV series temperature sensor is required]].
-  - Check the table below to see which models are incompatible with this feature.
-=== First production batches of SmartSolar MPPTs do not support VE.Smart Networking ===
-All currently shipping SmartSolar MPPTs support VE.Smart Networking. However some older versions of those models do **not** support VE.Smart Networking. Those devices will also not become compatible later with a firmware update: the incompatibility is due to a hardware limitation in those devices. There is a work around: connect a [[https://www.victronenergy.com/accessories/ve-direct-bluetooth-smart-dongle|VE.Direct Bluetooth Smart dongle]]. This **enables** VE.Smart Networking support. Both Voltage and Temperature sense will work. In such scenario the internal Bluetooth interface of the SmartSolar should not be used anymore as communication errors may occur - instead the VE.Direct Bluetooth Smart dongle is to be used when connecting by phone or tablet. This is the list of the older //incompatible// products and part-numbers - together with the part numbers of their compatible successors:
-^Product                            ^ Old Incompatible Part-number   ^ New Compatible Part-number ^
-|VE.Direct Bluetooth Smart dongle  |ASS030536010 |ASS030536011 |
-|SmartSolar MPPT 150/85 Tr        |SCC010085210 |SCC115085211 |
-|SmartSolar MPPT 150/85 MC4       |SCC010085310 |SCC115085311 |
-|SmartSolar MPPT 150/100 Tr       |SCC010100210 |SCC115110211 |
-|SmartSolar MPPT 150/100 MC4      |SCC010100310 |SCC115110311 |
-|SmartSolar MPPT 250/85           |SCC125085210 (before s/n HQ1811) \\ SCC125085310 (before s/n HQ1811)|SCC125085210 (after s/n HQ1811) \\ SCC125085310 (after s/n HQ1811) |
-|SmartSolar MPPT 250/100          |SCC125110210 (before s/n HQ1811) \\ SCC125110310 (before s/n HQ1811)|SCC125110210 (after s/n HQ1811) \\ SCC125110310 (after s/n HQ1811) |
-==== 3.2 Limitations ====
-  * The maximum number of devices which can be connected on one network is 25.
-  * VE.Smart Networking is designed for small systems which do not have a [[venus-os:start|GX device]] - such as a Color Control GX or Venus GX. In systems which have a [[venus-os:start|GX device]], do not use VE.Smart Networking - [[https://www.victronenergy.com/live/victronconnect:ve-smart-networking#faq|See FAQ 6.]]
-  * The transmitter range will be found to be the same as the Bluetooth range - as experienced when connecting a device to //VictronConnect//.
-===== 4. Step by step instructions =====
-We recommend you configure the Smart Battery Sense, or BMV first ...and //then// add one or more solar chargers to that network. You can read the Smart Battery Sense manual [[https://www.victronenergy.com/live/smart_battery_sense_manual|here]].
-==== 4.1 Setup the Smart Battery Sense or BMV ====
-Open [[victronconnect:start|VictronConnect]], connect the device, and then navigate to //Settings// and select //VE.Smart Networking//.
-Click //Create Network//, enter a name. Click //Save// and wait for the 'OK' to show up.
-{{:victronconnect:vc_vesmartnetwork_sbs_create_network.png?direct&150|}}{{:victronconnect:vc_vesmartnetwork_sbs_create_dialog.png?direct&150|}}{{:victronconnect:vc_vesmartnetwork_sbs_configured.png?direct&150|}}{{:victronconnect:vc_vesmartnetwork_sbs_transmitting.png?direct&150|}}
-==== 4.2 Join the Solar Chargers to the network ====
-Go back and navigate to the //Solar charger//, then click //Settings// followed by //VE.Smart Networking// followed by //Join Existing//. Now select the network which you created at the previous step.
-Wait for the 'OK' to show.
-{{:victronconnect:vc_vesmartnetwork_mppt_join_network.png?direct&150|}}{{:victronconnect:vc_vesmartnetwork_mppt_select_network.png?direct&150|}}{{:victronconnect:vc_vesmartnetwork_mppt_configured.png?direct&150|}}
-==== 4.3 Verify operation ====
-When everything is working OK, you will be able to see that the VE.Smart Networking page of the Solar Charger is receiving data:
-{{:victronconnect:vc_vesmartnetwork_mppt_received_data.png?direct&150|}}
-Also the network icon {{:victronconnect:ve_smart_networking.png?direct&24|}}will be shown on the main page:
-{{:victronconnect:vc_vesmartnetwork_mppt_livedata.png?direct&150|}}
-Clicking on that icon will show the network status.
-===== 5. FAQ =====
-=== Q1: Will you be adding wireless parallel charging as a feature? ===
-Yes we will - though we do not have a date for its introduction yet.
-=== Q2: Can several MPPTs be paired to one Smart Battery Sense or BMV?  ===
-Yes.
-=== Q3: Is VE.Smart Networking disrupted if I connect a smartphone to it at the same time? ===
-Not at all. It is possible to connect with a smart phone, computer or tablet, at the same time.
-=== Q4: Will you add the same functionality to the BlueSmart Charger product range? ===
-Yes we will - though the exact functionality, and the models to be included has yet to be determined.
-=== Q5: Can Smart Battery Sense be used as a standalone product? ===
-Yes. In this instance it will simply act as a voltage- and temperature-measuring device. Note that the functionality is limited in that it does not (yet) show the graphs or other data which would normally be generated from these measurements.
-=== Q6: Can I use Smart Battery Sense in systems already controlled by a GX device (eg CCGX/VenusGX)? ===
-No. The GX device already has voltage sensing (soon they will have temperature sensing too). Adding Smart Battery Sense to the installation will confuse the voltage-sensing data. For further information please see: [[https://www.victronenergy.com/live/ccgx:start#dvcc_-_distributed_voltage_and_current_control|CCGX/Distributed Voltage and Current Control.]]
-===== DISQUS =====
-~~DISQUS~~