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| victronconnect:ve-smart-networking [2019-02-09 00:34] – [3.1 VE.Smart Networking compatible products] mvader | victronconnect:ve-smart-networking [2019-10-10 13:58] – [3.1 VE.Smart Networking products compatibility] mvader |
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| ===== 3. Specifications ===== | ===== 3. Specifications ===== |
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| ==== 3.1 VE.Smart Networking compatible products ==== | ==== 3.1 VE.Smart Networking products compatibility ==== |
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| ^Product range ^ Compatible ^ [[https://www.victronenergy.com/accessories/ve-direct-bluetooth-smart-dongle|Requires VE.Direct Bluetooth Smart dongle]] ^ Function ^ | |
| |BMV-700 | Yes | Yes | Voltage-sense | | |
| |BMV-702 | Yes | Yes | Voltage-sense, and (optionally) temperature <sup> (1)</sup> | | |
| |BMV-712 | Yes | No, has built in bluetooth | Voltage-sense, and (optionally) temperature <sup> (1)</sup> | | |
| |SmartSolar MPPTs | Yes <sup> (2)</sup>| No, has built in bluetooth | Uses received sense data to optimize charging | | |
| |BlueSolar MPPTs | Yes | Yes | Uses received sense data to optimize charging | | |
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| | ^Product range ^ Compatible ^ Function ^ |
| | |BMV-700 | Yes (requires [[https://www.victronenergy.com/accessories/ve-direct-bluetooth-smart-dongle|dongle accessory]]) | Transmit voltage-sense | |
| | |BMV-702 | Yes (requires [[https://www.victronenergy.com/accessories/ve-direct-bluetooth-smart-dongle|dongle accessory]]) | Transmit voltage-sense, and (optionally) temperature <sup> (1)</sup> | |
| | |BMV-712 | Yes | Transmit voltage-sense, and (optionally) temperature <sup> (1)</sup> | |
| | |SmartSolar MPPTs | Yes <sup> (2)</sup> | Uses received sense data to optimize charging | |
| | |BlueSolar MPPTs | Yes | Uses received sense data to optimize charging | |
| | |Phoenix Smart IP43 Charger | No | Not yet supported, may be compatible in the future | |
| | |Orion-Tr Smart DC-DC Charger Isolated | No | Not yet supported, may be compatible in the future | |
| | |Blue Smart Chargers IP22, IP65 and IP67 | No | Not yet supported, may be compatible in the future | |
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| - To measure battery temperature, the [[https://www.victronenergy.com/accessories/temperature-sensor-for-bmv-702|BMV series temperature sensor is required]]. | - To measure battery temperature, the [[https://www.victronenergy.com/accessories/temperature-sensor-for-bmv-702|BMV series temperature sensor is required]]. |
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| All new SmartSolar MPPT's support VE.Smart Networking. However some older versions of our hardware do **not** support VE.Smart Networking. A list of the older //incompatible// products and part-numbers - together with the part numbers of their compatible successors is as follows : | === First production batches of SmartSolar MPPTs do not support VE.Smart Networking === |
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| | All currently shipping SmartSolar MPPTs support VE.Smart Networking. However some older versions of those models do **not** support VE.Smart Networking. Those devices will also not become compatible later with a firmware update: the incompatibility is due to a hardware limitation in those devices. There is a work around: connect a [[https://www.victronenergy.com/accessories/ve-direct-bluetooth-smart-dongle|VE.Direct Bluetooth Smart dongle]]. This **enables** VE.Smart Networking support. Both Voltage and Temperature sense will work. In such scenario the internal Bluetooth interface of the SmartSolar should not be used anymore as communication errors may occur - instead the VE.Direct Bluetooth Smart dongle is to be used when connecting by phone or tablet. This is the list of the older //incompatible// products and part-numbers - together with the part numbers of their compatible successors: |
| ^Product ^ Old Incompatible Part-number ^ New Compatible Part-number ^ | ^Product ^ Old Incompatible Part-number ^ New Compatible Part-number ^ |
| |VE.Direct Bluetooth Smart dongle |ASS030536010 |ASS030536011 | | |VE.Direct Bluetooth Smart dongle |ASS030536010 |ASS030536011 | |
| |SmartSolar MPPT 250/100 |SCC125110210 (before s/n HQ1811) \\ SCC125110310 (before s/n HQ1811)|SCC125110210 (after s/n HQ1811) \\ SCC125110310 (after s/n HQ1811) | | |SmartSolar MPPT 250/100 |SCC125110210 (before s/n HQ1811) \\ SCC125110310 (before s/n HQ1811)|SCC125110210 (after s/n HQ1811) \\ SCC125110310 (after s/n HQ1811) | |
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| Note that when listed as not compatible; they will also not become compatible later. The incompatibility is due to a hardware limitation in those devices. | |
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| ==== 3.2 Limitations ==== | ==== 3.2 Limitations ==== |
| * The maximum number of devices which can be connected on one network is 25. | * The maximum number of devices which can be connected on one network is 25. |
| * VE.Smart Networking is designed for small systems which do not have a [[venus-os:start|Venus-device]] - such as a Color Control GX or Venus GX. In systems which have a [[venus-os:start|Venus-device]], do not use VE.Smart Networking - [[https://www.victronenergy.com/live/victronconnect:ve-smart-networking#faq|See FAQ 6.]] | * VE.Smart Networking is designed for small systems which do not have a [[venus-os:start|GX device]] - such as a Color Control GX or Venus GX. In systems which have a [[venus-os:start|GX device]], do not use VE.Smart Networking - [[https://www.victronenergy.com/live/victronconnect:ve-smart-networking#faq|See FAQ 6.]] |
| * The transmitter range will be found to be the same as the Bluetooth range - as experienced when connecting a device to //VictronConnect//. | * The transmitter range will be found to be the same as the Bluetooth range - as experienced when connecting a device to //VictronConnect//. |
| ===== 4. Step by step instructions ===== | ===== 4. Step by step instructions ===== |
| Yes. In this instance it will simply act as a voltage- and temperature-measuring device. Note that the functionality is limited in that it does not (yet) show the graphs or other data which would normally be generated from these measurements. | Yes. In this instance it will simply act as a voltage- and temperature-measuring device. Note that the functionality is limited in that it does not (yet) show the graphs or other data which would normally be generated from these measurements. |
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| === Q6: Can I use Smart Battery Sense in systems already controlled by a CCGX/Venus GX? === | === Q6: Can I use Smart Battery Sense in systems already controlled by a GX device (eg CCGX/VenusGX)? === |
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| No. The CCGX/Venus GX already has voltage sensing (soon they will have temperature sensing too). Adding Smart Battery Sense to the installation will confuse the voltage-sensing data. For further information please see: [[https://www.victronenergy.com/live/ccgx:start#dvcc_-_distributed_voltage_and_current_control|CCGX/Distributed Voltage and Current Control.]] | No. The GX device already has voltage sensing (soon they will have temperature sensing too). Adding Smart Battery Sense to the installation will confuse the voltage-sensing data. For further information please see: [[https://www.victronenergy.com/live/ccgx:start#dvcc_-_distributed_voltage_and_current_control|CCGX/Distributed Voltage and Current Control.]] |
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| ===== DISQUS ===== | ===== DISQUS ===== |
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