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-====== GX product family ======+====== Victron GX product range ======
  
 ===== Introduction ===== ===== Introduction =====
  
-A Venus-device is the communication-centre of your installation.  It connects the components together and ensures they are working in harmony. Monitoring of live data, and changing settings is performed via our free-to-use Victron Remote Management Portal ([[https://vrm.victronenergy.com|VRM]]).+GX products are Victron's state-of-the-art monitoring solution. The family consists of the different GX products, and their accessories.
  
-The GX product family consists of the different Venus-devices; each suitable for their own best type of systemBesides that there are accessories which can be used to extend the functionality.+The GX-device lies at the heart of the system providing monitoring, and operating as the communication-centre of your installationAll the other system-components - such as inverter/chargers, solar chargers, and batteries - are connected to it. Monitoring can be carried out locally and remotely - via our free-to-use Victron Remote Management portal ([[https://vrm.victronenergy.com|VRM]]). The GX-device also provides [[vrm_portal:remote-firmware-update|Remote firmware updates]] and allows inverter/charger settings to be [[vrm_portal:remote-veconfigure|changed remotely]].
  
-The Venus devices are+The GX Family consists of these models
-  * [[https://www.victronenergy.com/panel-systems-remote-monitoring/color-control|Color Control GX]] +  * [[https://www.victronenergy.com/panel-systems-remote-monitoring/color-control|Color Control GX]] - Our first released GX product, the CCGX has a display and buttons. 
-  * [[https://www.victronenergy.com/panel-systems-remote-monitoring/venus-gx|Venus GX]] +  * [[https://www.victronenergy.com/panel-systems-remote-monitoring/venus-gx|Venus GX]] - The Venus GX has more analog and digital IO, no LCD and is more cost effective than the CCGX. 
-  * [[https://www.victronenergy.com/panel-systems-remote-monitoring/octo-gx|Octo GX]] - The Octo GX is the best fit for installations that have many MPPT Solar Chargers, as it has 10 VE.Direct ports +  * [[https://www.victronenergy.com/panel-systems-remote-monitoring/canvu-gx|CANvu GX]] - The CANvu GX is best for harsh environments - when its IP67 rating and touch LCD is a must. 
-  * CANvu GX - The CANvu GX is best used when IP67 rating is a must. +  * [[https://www.victronenergy.com/panel-systems-remote-monitoring/octo-gx|Octo GX]] - The Octo GX is particularly suited to medium size installations which have many MPPT Solar Chargers, as it has 10 VE.Direct ports. 
-===== Available accessories =====+  * [[https://www.victronenergy.com/panel-systems-remote-monitoring/maxi%20gx|Maxi GX]] Compared to the other GX devices, the Maxi GX has most CPU power and most VE.Direct ports: 25. This is the GX device to use for large systems with many VE.Direct MPPT Solar Chargers.
  
-  * [[https://nocache.victronenergy.com/panel-systems-remote-monitoring/gx-gsm|GX GSM]] - A cellular modem, connects to Venus-device via USB and takes a simcard +Lastly, there is a GX device built into our MultiPlus-II GX and EasySolar-II GX Inverter/chargers.
-  * [[https://www.victronenergy.com/blog/2014/12/12/color-control-gx-accessories-tips/|WiFi USB sticks]] +
-  * [[energy-meters:start|Energy Meters]] - Measures PV Inverter Output for types of PV Inverters that cannot be read-out directly. And used as a grid meter in an [[ess:start|Energy Storage System (ESS)]]. +
-  * [[https://www.victronenergy.com/accessories/ve-can-resistive-tank-sender-adapter|VE.Can resistive tank sender adapter]] The VE.Can resistive tank sender adapter allows a standard resistive tank level sender to connect to the Venus-device.+
  
  
-===== Comparison table ===== +===== Available accessories =====
-^ __User interface__        CCGX    ^  Venus GX                              ^  Octo GX  ^  CANvu GX  ^ +
-| Display  |  LCD Display & 7 buttons      no display                        |  no display  |  4.3" touch  | +
-| Remote Console            yes  |||| +
-| Buzzer                    yes      yes                                    no  |  ?  | +
-^ __Documentation__        CCGX    ^  Venus GX                              ^  Octo GX  ^ CANvu GX ^ +
-| Manual                  |  [[ccgx:start|CCGX manual]]  |  [[venus-gx:start|VGX manual]]  |  [[venus-os:octo-gx|OGX manual]]  |  [[venus-os:canvu-gx|CANvu manual]] +
-| Product detail page              |         | +
-^ __Victron comm. ports__  ^  CCGX    ^  Venus GX                            Octo GX  ^ CANvu GX ^ +
-| VE.Direct ports                |  2 <sup>(1)</sup>   ||  10 <sup>(1)</sup>  |  3 <sup>(1)</sup> +
-| VE.Can                    2 paralleled RJ45 sockets – isolated         |||| +
-| VE.Bus                    2 paralleled RJ45 sockets – isolated         |||| +
-^ __Non Victron-products__ ^  CCGX    ^  Venus GX                            ^  Octo GX  ^  CANvu GX  ^ +
-| Canbus-BMS batteries      Many battery brands. See [[battery_compatibility:start|here ]] for details  |||| +
-| Fronius PV Inverters    See [[ccgx:ccgx_fronius|here]] for details    |||| +
-| SMA PV Inverters    See [[ccgx:ccgx_sma|here]] for details    |||| +
-^ __Communication__      ^  CCGX                    ^  Venus GX                        ^  Octo GX  ^  CANvu GX  ^ +
-| USB                    |  2 USB Host ports – not isolated                           ||  1 USB Host port - not isolated  || +
-| Ethernet                10/100 RJ45 socket - isolated except shield               |||  1 port. isolation? +
-| WiFi                    optional <sup>(2)</sup>  |  built-in, but see <sup>(3)</sup>  |  built-in, external antenna <sup>(11)</sup>  |  optional <sup>(2)</sup> +
-| Bluetooth Smart        |  no                      |||| +
-| Micro SDcard slot      |  SDHC cards up to max. of 32GB. <sup>(5)</sup>              ||| no | +
-| Second CAN-bus port    |  no                      |  yes - non-isolated    yes - non-isolated  |  yes - non-isolated +
-| RS485                  |  no                      |  no                    yes - non-isolated  |  no  | +
-^ __IO__                            CCGX        ^  Venus GX                        ^  Octo GX  ^ CANvu GX ^ +
-| Programmable relay <sup>(7)</sup> |  1x NO        1x NO / NC <sup>(8)</sup>      |  1x NO / NC  ||  +
-| Resistive tank level inputs      |  no          |  3 <sup>(9)</sup>                |  no  || +
-| Temperature measurements          no          |  2 <sup>(10)</sup>                no  || +
-| Digital Inputs                        no          |  5                            3  |  1  | +
-^ __Accessories__                CCGX            Venus GX                      ^  Octo GX  ^  CANvu GX  ^ +
-| Compatibility |  Compatible with GX Product Family [[https://www.victronenergy.com/live/venus-os:start#available_accessories|Accessories]]  |||| +
-^ __Other__                        ^  CCGX        ^  Venus GX                        ^  Octo GX  ^  CANvu GX  ^ +
-| Mounting                      Panel Integration  |  Hangers for screws        DIN Rail (35mm)  |  Panel  | +
-| Outer dimensions ( h x w x d )    130 x 120 x 28 mm  |  45 x 143 x 96 mm          61 x 108 x 90 mm  |  ?  | +
-| Operating temperature            |  -20 to +50°C  |||  ?  | +
-^ __Standards__                CCGX            Venus GX                      ^  Octo GX  ^  CANvu GX  ^ +
-| Safety                      |  EN 60950                                       ||  ?  |  ?  | +
-| EMC                          EN 61000-6-3, EN 55014-1, EN 61000-6-2, EN 61000-6-1, EN 55014-2  |||| +
-| Automotive                  |  E4-10R-053535  |  In progress                    ?  |  ?  |+
  
-Notes:+  * [[https://www.victronenergy.com/accessories/gx-gsm|GX GSM]] - A cellular modem. It connects to GX device via USB, and takes a simcard 
 +  * [[https://www.victronenergy.com/live/ccgx:start#internet_connectivity|WiFi USB sticks]] 
 +  * [[energy-meters:start|Energy Meters]] - Measures PV Inverter Output where PV Inverters cannot be read-out directly. Also used as a grid meter in an [[ess:start|Energy Storage System (ESS)]]. 
 +  * [[https://www.victronenergy.com/accessories/ve-can-resistive-tank-sender-adapter|VE.Can resistive tank sender adapter]] Allows a standard resistive tank-level sender to be connected to the GX device. 
 + 
 +===== Comparison table ===== 
 +^ __User interface__        CCGX    ^  Venus GX                              ^  Octo GX  ^  CANvu GX  ^  Maxi GX  ^  MultiPlus-II GX and EasySolar-II GX  ^ 
 +| Appearance    {{ :ccgx:ccgx_product.png?direct&100 |}}      {{ :ccgx:venusgx_product.png?direct&100 |}}                        |  {{ :ccgx:octogx_product.png?direct&100 |}}  |  {{ :ccgx:canvu_product.png?direct&100 |}}  | {{:venus-os:maxigx.jpg?direct&90|}} |  {{ :ccgx:multiplus-ii-gx.jpg?direct&80 |}}  | 
 +| Display  |  LCD Display & 7 buttons      no display  |  no display  |  4.3" touch-screen  |  2x16 character display  || 
 +| Remote Console            yes  |||||| 
 +| Buzzer                    yes      yes                                    no  |  yes  |  no  || 
 +^ __Documentation__        CCGX    ^  Venus GX                              ^  Octo GX  ^  CANvu GX  ^  Maxi GX  ^  MultiPlus-II GX and EasySolar-II GX  ^ 
 +| Manual                  |  [[ccgx:start|CCGX manual]]  |  [[venus-gx:start|VGX manual]]  |  [[venus-os:octo-gx|OGX manual]]  |  [[venus-os:canvu-gx|CANvu manual]]  |  [[https://docs.victronenergy.com/gx/maxi-gx.html|Maxi GX manual]]  |  [[https://ve3.nl/multiplus-ii-gx|MultiPlus-II GX manual]] 
 +| Product detail page      [[https://www.victronenergy.com/panel-systems-remote-monitoring/color-control|CCGX product]]     [[https://www.victronenergy.com/panel-systems-remote-monitoring/venus-gx|VGX product]]     [[https://www.victronenergy.com/panel-systems-remote-monitoring/octo-gx|OGX product]]  |   [[https://www.victronenergy.com/accessories/canvu-gx|CANvu product]]  |  [[https://www.victronenergy.com/panel-systems-remote-monitoring/maxi%20gx|Maxi GX product]]  |  [[https://www.victronenergy.com/inverters-chargers/multiplus-ii%20gx|MultiPlus-II GX product]] 
 +^ __Victron comm. ports__  ^  CCGX    ^  Venus GX                            Octo GX  ^  CANvu GX<sup>(12)</sup>  ^  Maxi GX  ^  MultiPlus-II GX and EasySolar-II GX  ^ 
 +| VE.Direct ports (always isolated)    2 <sup>(1)</sup>   ||  10 <sup>(1)</sup>  |  3 <sup>(1)</sup>  |  25  |  1  | 
 +| VE.Bus                    2 paralleled RJ45 sockets – isolated         ||||  1 isolated RJ45 socket  |  2 paralleled RJ45 sockets – isolated 
 +| VE.Can                    2 paralleled RJ45 sockets – isolated         ||||  no <sup>(14)</sup>  || 
 +^ __Non Victron-products__ ^  CCGX    ^  Venus GX                            ^  Octo GX  ^  CANvu GX  ^  Maxi GX  ^  MultiPlus-II GX and EasySolar-II GX  ^ 
 +| Canbus-BMS batteries      Many battery brands. See [[battery_compatibility:start|here ]] for details  |||||| 
 +| Fronius PV Inverters    See [[ccgx:ccgx_fronius|here]] for details    |||||| 
 +| SMA PV Inverters    See [[ccgx:ccgx_sma|here]] for details    |||||| 
 +| ABB PV Inverters    See [[ccgx:abb|here]] for details    |||||| 
 +| SolarEdge PV Inverters    See [[venus-os:gx_solaredge|here]] for details    |||||| 
 +| [[https://www.victronenergy.com/live/ccgx:start#marine_mfd_glass_bridge_integration|Marine MFD Support]]                  |  [[https://www.victronenergy.com/live/ccgx:start#marine_mfd_glass_bridge_integration|Generic MFD Manual]], [[https://www.victronenergy.com/live/venus-os:mfd-navico|Navico]], [[https://www.victronenergy.com/live/venus-os:mfd-garmin|Garmin]], [[https://www.victronenergy.com/live/venus-os:mfd-raymarine|Raymarine]]  |||||| 
 +^ __Communication__      ^  CCGX                    ^  Venus GX                        ^  Octo GX  ^  CANvu GX  ^  Maxi GX  ^  MultiPlus-II GX and EasySolar-II GX  ^ 
 +| USB                    |  2 USB Host ports – not isolated                           ||  1 USB Host port - not isolated  |||| 
 +| Ethernet                10/100 RJ45 socket - isolated except shield               |||  1 port. isolation?<sup>(12)</sup>  |  10/100 RJ45 socket  || 
 +| WiFi                    optional <sup>(2)</sup>  |  built-in, but see <sup>(3)</sup>  |  built-in, external antenna <sup>(11)</sup>  |  optional <sup>(2)</sup>  |  no  |  built-in 
 +| Bluetooth Smart        |  no                      |||||| 
 +| Micro SDcard slot      |  SDHC cards up to max. of 32GB. <sup>(5)</sup>              |||  no  |  yes  |  no  | 
 +| Second CAN-bus port    |  no                      |  yes - non-isolated    yes - non-isolated  |  yes - non-isolated  |  no  |  no  | 
 +| BMS-Can port <sup>15</sup> |  no  ||||  yes <sup>(14)</sup>  || 
 +| Built-in RS485          no                      |  no                    yes - non-isolated  |  no  ||  no  | 
 +^ __IO__                            CCGX        ^  Venus GX                        ^  Octo GX  ^  CANvu GX<sup>(12)</sup>  ^  Maxi GX  ^  MultiPlus-II GX and EasySolar-II GX  ^ 
 +| Programmable relay <sup>(7)</sup> |  1x NO        1x NO / NC <sup>(8)</sup>      |  1x NO / NC  ||  2x NO / NC <sup>(8)</sup>  |  n/a  | 
 +| Resistive tank level inputs      |  no          |  3 <sup>(9)</sup>                |  no  |||| 
 +| Temperature sense inputs          no          |  2 <sup>(10)</sup>                no  |||| 
 +| Digital Inputs                        no          |  5                            3  |  1  |  4  |  no  | 
 +^ __Performance__              CCGX            Venus GX                      ^  Octo GX  ^  CANvu GX  ^  Maxi GX  ^  MultiPlus-II GX and EasySolar-II GX  ^ 
 +| CPU                              |  single core  ||||  quad core  || 
 +| RAM                             256MB  |  512MB  |  512MB  |  256MB  |  512MB  |  512MB  | 
 +| Max. VE.Direct devices <sup>(1)</sup> |  5  |  6  |  10  |  4  |  25  |  25  |   
 +^ __Other__                        ^  CCGX        ^  Venus GX                        ^  Octo GX  ^  CANvu GX  ^  Maxi GX  ^  MultiPlus-II GX and EasySolar-II GX  ^ 
 +| Supply voltage |  8 - 70 VDC  |||  8 - 32 VDC  |  32 - 70 VDC  |  powered internally, no external supply 
 +| Mounting                      Panel Integration  |  Wall mounting        DIN Rail (35mm)  |  Panel  |  Wall mount IP65  |  Built-in 
 +| Outer dimensions ( h x w x d )    130 x 120 x 28 mm  |  45 x 143 x 96 mm          61 x 108 x 90 mm  |  ?  |  600 x 380 x 210 mm  | 
 +| Operating temperature            |  -20 to +50°C  |||  -20 to +70°C |  -20 to +50°C 
 +| Battery backupped clock          |  yes  |||  no  |  yes  |  yes  | 
 +| 5V output                        |  no  |  1 A <sup>(13)</sup> |  no  |||| 
 +^ __Standards__                CCGX            Venus GX                      ^  Octo GX  ^  CANvu GX  ^  Maxi GX  ^  MultiPlus-II GX and EasySolar-II GX  ^ 
 +| Safety                      |  EN 60950                                       ||  ?  |  ?  |  ?  | 
 +| EMC                          EN 61000-6-3, EN 55014-1, EN 61000-6-2, EN 61000-6-1, EN 55014-2  ||||| 
 +| Automotive                  |  E4-10R-053535  |  In progress                    ?  |  ?  |  no  | 
 +===== Notes =====
  
-  - The maximum number of VE.Direct devices: on a CCGX is 5 (2 normal and 3 via USB)On a Venus GX is 6 (2 normal and 4 via USB)On a Octo GX is 10 (10 normal, no USB)VE.Direct ports on a Venus-device are isolated+  - The listed maximum on the `Performance` section in above table is the total connected VE.Direct devices such as MPPT Solar Charge controllers. Total means all directly connected devices plus the devices connected over USB. The limit is mostly bound by CPU processing powerNote that there is also a limit to the other type of devices of which often multiple are connected: PV InvertersUp to three or four three phase inverters can typically be monitored on a CCGX. Higher power CPU devices can monitor more
-  - Though the CCGX has no built-in WiFi it can easily be added by attaching a USB-WiFi dongle. See [[https://www.victronenergy.com/live/ccgx:start#internet_connectivity|CCGX Manual, section 1.4.2]] for details. +  - Though the CCGX has no built-in WiFi that functionality can easily be added by attaching a USB-WiFi dongle. See [[https://www.victronenergy.com/live/ccgx:start#internet_connectivity|CCGX Manual, section 1.4.2]] for details. 
-  - The built-in WiFi in the Venus GX has a very low signal strength - unfortunately. The strength is sufficient for connecting to a phone, tablet or laptop in order to access setup and monitoring. But to connect the Venus GX to the internet either use the built-in Ethernet port or add a USB-WiFi dongle. See [[https://www.victronenergy.com/live/ccgx:start#internet_connectivity|CCGX Manual, section 1.4.2]] for details. Make sure the Venus GX is running v2.06 or later - the first shipment of Venus GX units ran v2.05. +  - The built-in WiFi in the Venus GX has a very low signal strength - unfortunately. It is strong enough to connect to a phone, tablet or laptop in order to access setup and monitoring. But to connect the Venus GX to the internet either use the built-in Ethernet port or add a USB-WiFi dongle. See [[https://www.victronenergy.com/live/ccgx:start#internet_connectivity|CCGX Manual, section 1.4.2]] for details. Make sure the Venus GX is running v2.06 or later - early shipments of Venus GX units ran v2.05. 
-  - Though the hardware of the Venus GX and Octo GX have a Bluetooth Smart chipset inside; it doesn'work properly and they are unfixable. Bluetooth Smart for Venus-devices is coming but not using those built-in chipsets.+  - The hardware of the Venus GX and Octo GX includes built-in Bluetooth Smart chipset which hasn'proved satisfactory. Bluetooth Smart for GX devices is coming soon but will not use built-in chipsets.
   - Larger SD memory cards (SDXC) are not supported. SD cards can be used for two purposes:   - Larger SD memory cards (SDXC) are not supported. SD cards can be used for two purposes:
     - Logging data, see [[https://www.victronenergy.com/live/ccgx:start#logging_data_for_the_vrm_portal|this section in the ccgx manual for details.]]     - Logging data, see [[https://www.victronenergy.com/live/ccgx:start#logging_data_for_the_vrm_portal|this section in the ccgx manual for details.]]
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   - The tank level inputs are resistive and should be connected to a resistive tank sender. Victron does not supply tank senders. The tank level ports can each be configured to work with either European (0 - 180 Ohm); or US tank senders (240 - 30 Ohm).   - The tank level inputs are resistive and should be connected to a resistive tank sender. Victron does not supply tank senders. The tank level ports can each be configured to work with either European (0 - 180 Ohm); or US tank senders (240 - 30 Ohm).
   - The Venus GX has two temperature terminals which can be used to measure & monitor all kinds of temperature-inputs. Temperature senders are not included. The required sensor is ASS000001000 - Temperature Sensor QUA/PMP/Venus GX. (Note that this is __not__ the same as the BMV temperature accessory.)   - The Venus GX has two temperature terminals which can be used to measure & monitor all kinds of temperature-inputs. Temperature senders are not included. The required sensor is ASS000001000 - Temperature Sensor QUA/PMP/Venus GX. (Note that this is __not__ the same as the BMV temperature accessory.)
-  - Octo GX comes with a small Wifi antenna. It is possible to replace it by any other Wifi antenna having RP-SMA connector.+  - Octo GX comes with a small Wifi antenna. You may remove and replace it with any other Wifi antenna having an RP-SMA connector
 +  - Requires the [[https://www.victronenergy.com/accessories/canvu%20gx%20io%20extender%20and%20wiring%20kit|CANvu GX IO Extender and wiring kit]] 
 +  - The 5V output on the Venus GX can be used to power, for example, a USB hub. Note that its output is not current limited or otherwise protected, and it shares the internal power supply in the Venus GX: overdrawing from it will result in shutdown(s) of the Venus GX. It is recommended to install a fuse for prevention. 
 +  - Though the Maxi GX, MultiPlus-II GX and EasySolar-II GX all have a dual set of RJ-45 sockets labelled VE.Can, this port is actually a dedicated BMS-Can port. It can only be used to connected to managed batteries like Freedomwon, BYD, Pylontech and others, at 500kbps. The hardware does not meet the requirements for a VE.Can port; and thus it is not possible to use to port to connect Victron products such as the SmartSolar VE.Can MPPT product range. Note that current version of Venus OS firmware still allows to select the VE.Can function and other baudrates. The result will be unreliable, and future firmware versions will lock the feature to BMS-Can only and 500kbps. 
 +  - A BMS-Can port is a port dedicated to be used for connecting managed batteries, like BYD, Pylontech, Freedomwon and others, only. It is not possible to connect Victron VE.Can products to that port. To connect such managed battery, use our [special cables](https://www.victronenergy.com/cables/ve-can-to-can-bus-bms), and see documentation [here](https://www.victronenergy.com/live/battery_compatibility:start). Connect the side labelled 'VE.Can' into the BMS-Can/VE.Can port on the GX Device. And connect the other side to the battery. The baudrate of a BMS-Can port is fixed to 500kbps.
venus-os/start.txt · Last modified: 2024-05-11 10:24 by mvader

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