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-====== Energy Meters start page ===== +The old Energy Meter datasheet and selection guide have been removedYou can find the new datasheet here: [[https://www.victronenergy.com/upload/documents/Datasheet-Energy-Meters-overview-EN.pdf]]
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-At Victron Energy, we stock two types of Energy Meters: the ET112 for single phase installations, and the ET340 for multi-phase installations. +
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-The Energy Meters are used in systems with a Venus-device. To measure the output of a grid inverter (more info in the Venus-OS manual [[https://www.victronenergy.com/live/ccgx:start#measuring_pv_inverter_output|here]]. Or as a Grid Meter in an ESS installation, more information in the [[https://www.victronenergy.com/live/ess:design-installation-manual|ESS manual]]. +
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-===== 1. Selection guide ===== +
-^ Requirement                       ^ Type  ^ Solution                                         ^^^ +
-^ :::                               ^ :::   ^ Part number  ^ Model ^ Specs                       ^  +
-| Single phase up to 100A           | Shunt | REL300100000 | ET112 | 1 phase max 100A          | +
-| Three phase up to 65A/phase       | Shunt | REL300300000 | ET340 | 3 phase max 65A/phase     | +
-| Single phase more than 100A/phase | CT    | See three phase CT solution                      ||| +
-| Three phase more than 65A/phase   | CTs   | Carlo Gavazzi EM24DINAV53DISX (see FAQ Q8)       ||| +
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-=== 1.1 Support for other Carlo Gavazzi meters === +
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-Besides above listed meters, there are many more meters available from Carlo Gavazzi. Use this list to see which ones are compatible. +
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-^ Type     ^ Support       ^ Remarks                                                      ^ +
-^ EM111    | Supported     | Compatible with ET112.                                       | +
-^ ET111    | Supported     | Compatible with ET112.                                       | +
-^ EM112    | Supported     | Compatible with ET112.                                       | +
-^ ET340    | Supported     | None.                                                        | +
-^ EM340    | Not supported | does not report exported energy per phase (unlike the ET340) | +
-^ EM21 72D | Not supported | does not report exported energy,                             | +
-^ :::      | :::           | com protocol not compatible with supported grid meters       | +
-^ EM271    | Not supported | does not report exported energy,                             | +
-^ :::      | :::           | com protocol not compatible with supported grid meters       | +
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-===== 2. Manuals ===== +
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-  * [[et112|REL300100000 - ET112 - 1 phase - max 100A]] +
-  * [[et340|REL300300000 - ET340 - 3 phase max 65A/phase]] +
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-No longer used: +
-  * [[em24|REL200100000 - EM24 - 3 phase max 65A/phase]] +
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-===== 3. FAQ ===== +
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-=== Q1: Can I combine three ET112s for a three phase system? === +
-No. +
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-=== Q2: Can I use other meters, for example from other brands? === +
-No. +
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-=== Q3: I already have a Fronius SmartGrid meter, can I use that? === +
-No. +
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-=== Q5: What are the differences between the old and new three meters? === +
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-Old meter: +
-  * REL200100000 - Carlo Gavazzi EM24DINAV93XISX +
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-New meters: +
-  * REL300100000 - Carlo Gavazzi ET112-DIN.AV01.X.S1.X +
-  * REL300300000 - Carlo Gavazzi ET340-DIN.AV23.X.S1.X +
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-Differences: +
-  * The new meters don't have a front selector that the installer needs to put in a different setting than it comes out of the box: easier, less mistakes to be made. +
-  * The new meters have no display. The only thing they have is an LED, which blinks in case of active communication. +
-  * The new meters have 2 RJ45 sockets for the Modbus RS485 connection. But they are not used. Note the possible confusion because of yet another RJ-45 socket in the Victron world though. Don't mix that with VE.Bus, VE.Can or VE.net. Besides the RJ-45 sockets, the meters still also have terminals for the RS485 wiring, which is how we advise to connect a meter to the CCGX. +
-  * Since there is no display, the Modbus address can no longer be changed on the meter. Combining multiple of those meters on one RS485 network is therefore not supported. +
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-Three-phase new meter only (ET340): +
-  * Measuring a single phase PV Inverter on the second phase of the new meter, ET340, actually works. Where-as with the old meter, the EM24, only the Power Metering (Watts) works. The Energy Metering (kWh) for a single phase PV Inverter on the second phase of the EM24 does not work. +
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-=== Q6: Will you keep shipping the old meter? (EM24) === +
-No. +
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-Why not? Because it is more expensive than the new one. +
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-And also because measuring a single phase inverter on the second phase does not work 100%, see Q5. +
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-In case you still prefer to use the EM24, you can always buy that from Carlo Gavazzi directly, or through one of their distributors. +
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-=== Q7: Can I buy those meters directly from Carlo Gavazzi instead of from you? === +
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-Yes. That is also why we make no secret of the CG part numbers. +
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-=== Q8: I want to use Current Transformers (CTs), is that possible? === +
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-Yes. You can buy the CG EM24DINAV53DISX directly from Carlo Gavazzi or one of their distributors. Even though Victron does not stock that type of meter, we do support it in our software. +
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-The EM24DINAV53DISX is the solution for three-phase systems that go over 65A per phase. +
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-===== DISQUS ===== +
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-~~DISQUS~~+
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