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-====== Generator auto start/stop on CCGX and Venus GX ======+The content of this page has moved to the various GX manuals.
  
-===== Introduction ===== +Please go to your product on our [[https://www.victronenergy.com/panel-systems-remote-monitoring|Panels and system monitoring page]], there open the manual and then go to the Generator start/stop chapter.
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-An internal relay on the CCGX/Venus GX can be used to automatically start and stop a generator. This relay - or switch - can be 'tripped' by a number of user-defined conditions. This manual will explain what conditions are available to you; and it will guide you through the steps required to set-up this useful functionality.  +
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-Firstly, wire the relay to a genset. The relay is located on the back of the CCGX - marked //Relay//. If using a Venus GX, two relays will be seen at the bottom of the unit - only //Relay 1// can be used for the generator automatic start/stop functionality.  +
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-Wiring between the CCGX/Venus GX needs to be 'permanent' in order for the generator to keep running; and also to allow automatic 'Stop' when the parameters for auto-stop have been met. +
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-Besides driving the internal relay, the auto start/stop functionality can be also enabled to directly control supported Fischer Panda generators. For more information on how to connect Fischer Panda generators, see [[ccgx:fischer_panda|]]. +
-===== Enabling the start/stop function ===== +
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-Go to: Setttings -> Relay and set the //Function// options to "Generator start/stop"\\ +
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-====Relay==== +
-{{:ccgx:startstop-relay.png?300|}} +
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-Now that has been enabled, all the settings pertaining to the //Automatic Generator Start/Stop// function will be found in the main Menu under: Settings -> Generator start and stop.\\ +
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-====Fischer Panda==== +
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-  - Enable the "AutoStart" function in the Fischer Panda generator control panel+
-  Go to the Fischer Panda genset page and set the //Mode// setting to "Auto start/stop"\\ +
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-Once the Mode is set, all settings will become available under the Auto start/stop menu entry at the bottom of the page.\\ +
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-{{:ccgx:startstop-fischerpanda.png?300|}} +
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-=====Main page===== +
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-From the main menu select Settings > Generator start/stop: +
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-{{:ccgx:startstop-mainpage.png?300|}} +
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-  * **Generator state**: Current status of the generator. +
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-  * **Error**: Error description. +
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-  * **Runtime**: Generator runtime since last start. +
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-  * **Total run time**: Accumulated running time since the first start. +
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-  * **Time to next test run**: When the test run option is enabled this item shows the time remaining until the next test run. +
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-  * **Daily runtime**: Running time history for the last 30 days. +
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-  * **Settings**: This is the gateway to all other features. +
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-===== Settings ===== +
-{{:ccgx:startstop-settings.png?300|}} +
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-  * **Conditions**: See [[#Conditions|Conditions]] +
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-  * **Minimum runtime**: It's good practice for a generator, once started, to reach its operating temperature. When started manually this setting is ignored. +
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-  * **Detect generator at AC input**: Enabling this feature will sound an alarm whenever power is //not// detected at the AC input terminal of the Inverter/Charger. This function will bring attention to a wide variety of problems; such as lack of fuel, or a mechanical or electrical fault at the generator. This functionality is not available for VE.Can connected Multi/Quattro. +
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-  * **Quiet hours**: See [[#Quiet hours|Quiet hours]] +
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-  * **Reset daily run time counters**: Resets the 30 day run-time history. +
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-  * **Generator total run time**: Reset, or modify, the total run-time hours. +
-===== Conditions ===== +
-To get to //Conditions// from the main menu: Setting -> Generator start and stop -> Settings -> Conditions\\ +
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-{{:ccgx:startstop-conditions.png?300|}} +
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-* **Battery monitor**: Select how the battery will be monitored - if at all. The battery monitor data will be used for DC-related conditions. +
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-* **On loss of communication**: If ever there is a communication breakdown between the CCGX/Venus GX and the selected battery monitor, and/or VE. Bus inverter/charger; and parameters have been set which depend on this information - choose between the following actions: +
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-    * **Stop the generator**: If the generator is running, it will be stopped. (default) +
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-    * **Start the generator**: If the generator is not running, it will be started. +
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-    * **Keep running**: If the generator is running at the time of data loss this setting will keep it running. +
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-* **Do not run genset when AC 1 is in use**: This option is ideal for back-up systems where a Quattro has mains/grid electricity connected to its //AC-in 1// terminal, and a Genset connected to its //AC-in 2// terminal. With this option enabled, the Genset will only start after a mains failure. And where a mains failure has occurred, the Genset will automatically be stopped again as soon as mains power is restored. This functionality is not available for VE.Can connected Quattros. +
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-The following parameters may be user-defined to trigger an automatic Generator start/stop: +
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-  * Manual +
-  * State of charge (SOC) +
-  * AC load * +
-  * Battery current +
-  * Battery voltage +
-  * Inverter high temperature +
-  * Inverter overload +
-  * Periodic test run +
-(* The value measured here will be the total AC consumption of the system.)\\ +
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-Condition-parameters are prioritized in the order shown above. When a number of conditions are reached at the same time, only the highest-priority condition will be shown as active. +
-All enabled conditions will be evaluated - even if the generator is already running. When the active condition has been satisfied, an un-met parameter in a lower-priority condition will keep the generator running. +
-==== Relays triggered by Battery Voltage ==== +
-{{:ccgx:startstop-conditionsettings.png?300|}} +
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-  * **Use battery voltage value to start/stop**: Enables/disables the battery voltage settings. +
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-  * **Start when battery voltage is lower than**: When battery voltage falls below the value entered the relay will start the generator. +
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-  * **Start value during quiet hours**: If the [[#Quiet_hours|Quiet hours]] mode is active a lower (more critical) value can be entered here. +
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-  * ** Start after the condition is reached for**: This function allows the user to build in a delay between the above condition being met and a generator auto-start being triggered. The importance of this is that a sudden but temporary high AC demand will cause an equally sudden drop in battery voltage. This drop //may// be temporary - in which case a generator start is not required. But if the condition endures for a longer period of time than the value entered herethe generator will be started. +
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-  * **Stop when battery voltage is higher than**:  When battery voltage rises above the value entered the relay will stop the generator. +
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-  * **Stop value during quiet hours**: During quiet hours it may be desirable to auto-stop the generator sooner. Enter a lower battery voltage value than the one above. +
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-  * ** Stop after the condition is reached for**: This feature builds in a delay before stopping the generator after the 'stop' value has been reached. This is to make sure that the voltage rise is stable. +
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-==== Relays triggered by AC load  ==== +
-AC load triggers work similarly to other triggers but the feature is refined by a "Measurement" setting. +
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-The "Measurement" setting is available on firmware v2.0 and later and has three possible values: +
-  * **Total consumption** (Default option) +
-  * **Inverter total AC out** +
-  * **Inverter AC out highest phase**  +
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-{{:ccgx:startstop-acload-condition.png?300|}} +
-{{:ccgx:startstop-acload-measurement.png?300|}} +
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-==== Automatic periodic 'Test run' ==== +
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-This feature allows automatic generator starts, periodically, as a 'test run'.\\ +
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-{{:ccgx:startstop-testrun.png?300|}} +
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-  * **Test run interval**: Set the interval between test runs. +
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-  * **Skip test run if has been running for**: The test will be skipped if during the test run interval the generator ran for at least as long as it would on a 'test run'+
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-  * **Test interval start date**: The 'test run' interval counter will start from the date entered here. No test runs will be carried out until the date set here has been reached. +
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-  * **Start time**: Time of day at which the generator 'test run' will commence. +
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-  * **Test duration**: Duration of the test. +
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-  * **Run until battery is fully charged**: Enabling this feature will cause the 'test run' to continue until the battery is fully charged - instead of for a fixed amount of time. +
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-==== Manual start Feature === +
-Use the manual start feature to remotely start the generator. You can also implement this feature when the generator is already running - doing so will ensure that the generator won't automatically stop when the condition which caused it to start has been satisfied. In other words, the manual start feature will override the auto-stop parameters. +
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-There are two ways to start the generator manually: +
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-  * **Using menu**: Go to Generator start and stop -> Manual start; and then toggle the graphic to start the generator. +
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-  * **Using generator page**: Press the top-left button on the CCGX or remote consul to engage the //Generator// page. Then press the center button. You must first choose how you wish to //stop// the generator - manually, or by entering a run-time. Once you've made your selection a five-second countdown will begin during which you can //abort//  the manual-start by pressing the center button. +
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-{{:ccgx:startstop-manual.png?300|}} +
-{{:ccgx:startstop-pages.png?300|}} +
-{{:ccgx:startstop-pagestimer.png?300|}} +
-{{:ccgx:startstop-pagescountdown.png?300|}} +
-{{:ccgx:startstop-pagesstarted.png?300|}} +
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-**WARNING:** If the generator is started manually (remotely) without using the stop timer, it will run until the 'Off' button has also been manually toggled by the user. +
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-The stop timer is available whichever route you choose to start the generator, using it will ensure the the generator has an instruction to stop. +
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-Stopping the generator manually will only be possible when no unmet 'run' condition is active. If you wish to force a generator-stop you must first disable the function which is keeping it running - or disable the //Generator start and stop// function. +
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-===== Quiet hours ===== +
-{{:ccgx:startstop-quiethours.png?300|}} +
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-Quiet hours allows you to set a time zone for nighttime with values that make the generator start only when is really necessary. +
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-When the "Quiet hours" mode is active, the conditions will use the related start/stop values. +
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-To enable it go to the settings menu and set the "Enable quiet hours" switch on. +
-Once enabled start and end time settings will become visible. +
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-You can make the "Quiet hours" mode to be permanently active(when enabled) setting both start and stop time to the same value. +
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-=== Using "Quiet hours" to define two time zones === +
-Besides the main purpose of the "Quiet hours" mode you can also use it to define two time zones over the day. +
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-Examples of the use of different time zones: +
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-  * **Solar system**: A cloudy morning may cause the generator to start by a low SOC condition, then two hours after the clouds go away. In this case your batteries are charged and your solar system wasting free energy. To avoid this situation you can set a time zone for daytime with a lower start value for the SOC condition. +
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-  * **Away mode**: Some holiday houses are only inhabited on weekends during which power consumption is larger and the generator has to take care of keep batteries in good condfition. The rest of the week the battery SOC level can be lower waiting to be charged by solar energy. With time zones you can set a secondary time zone for the whole day and only enable/disable it when the house is uninhabited. +
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-=====Troubleshooting ===== +
-====Fischer Panda: Generator does not start and "Remote switch control disabled" error is shown==== +
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-Enable the "AutoStart" function in the Fischer Panda control panel. +
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-====Fischer Panda: Auto start/stop function stopped working after an error==== +
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-Make sure that the issue is solved and clear the error to make the auto start/stop function work again. +
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-===== DISQUS ===== +
-~~DISQUS~~+
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