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- | ====== Generator auto start/ | + | ====== |
- | ===== Introduction ===== | + | ===== 1. Introduction ===== |
- | An internal relay on the CCGX/Venus GX can be used to automatically start and stop a generator. This relay - or switch - can be ' | + | An internal relay on a [[venus-os: |
+ | This is one of the available options to automatically start and stop a generator. See the [[auto-generator-start-stop: | ||
+ | |||
+ | ===== 2. Wiring ===== | ||
Firstly, wire the relay to a genset. The relay is located on the back of the CCGX - marked //Relay//. If using a Venus GX, two relays will be seen at the bottom of the unit - only //Relay 1// can be used for the generator automatic start/stop functionality. | Firstly, wire the relay to a genset. The relay is located on the back of the CCGX - marked //Relay//. If using a Venus GX, two relays will be seen at the bottom of the unit - only //Relay 1// can be used for the generator automatic start/stop functionality. | ||
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Besides driving the internal relay, the auto start/stop functionality can be also enabled to directly control supported Fischer Panda generators. For more information on how to connect Fischer Panda generators, see [[ccgx: | Besides driving the internal relay, the auto start/stop functionality can be also enabled to directly control supported Fischer Panda generators. For more information on how to connect Fischer Panda generators, see [[ccgx: | ||
- | ===== Enabling the start/stop function ===== | + | |
+ | There are many variations on the generator side for wiring and you should also consult your generator manual or supplier regarding their remote wire start configuration. | ||
+ | |||
+ | ===== 3. Enabling the start/stop function ===== | ||
Go to: Setttings -> Relay and set the // | Go to: Setttings -> Relay and set the // | ||
- | ====Relay==== | + | ===Relay=== |
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Now that has been enabled, all the settings pertaining to the //Automatic Generator Start/ | Now that has been enabled, all the settings pertaining to the //Automatic Generator Start/ | ||
- | ====Fischer Panda==== | + | ===Fischer Panda Generators=== |
- Enable the " | - Enable the " | ||
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- | =====Main page===== | + | ===== 4. Generator start/stop - Main page===== |
- | From the main menu select Settings > Generator start/stop: | + | From the Main Menu select Settings > Generator start/stop: |
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* **Error**: Error description. | * **Error**: Error description. | ||
- | * **Runtime**: | + | * **Runtime**: |
* **Total run time**: Accumulated running time since the first start. | * **Total run time**: Accumulated running time since the first start. | ||
- | * **Time to next test run**: When the test run option is enabled this item shows the time remaining until the next test run. | + | * **Time to next test run**: When the 'test run' |
* **Daily runtime**: Running time history for the last 30 days. | * **Daily runtime**: Running time history for the last 30 days. | ||
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* **Settings**: | * **Settings**: | ||
- | ===== Settings ===== | + | ===== 5. Settings ===== |
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* **Conditions**: | * **Conditions**: | ||
- | * **Minimum | + | * **Minimum |
- | * **Detect generator at AC input**: Enabling this feature will sound an alarm whenever power is //not// detected at the AC input terminal of the Inverter/ | + | * **Detect generator at AC input**: Enabling this feature will raise an alarm on the GX device, as well as trigger an alarm email from the VRM portal(1), |
* **Quiet hours**: See [[#Quiet hours|Quiet hours]] | * **Quiet hours**: See [[#Quiet hours|Quiet hours]] | ||
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* **Generator total run time**: Reset, or modify, the total run-time hours. | * **Generator total run time**: Reset, or modify, the total run-time hours. | ||
- | ===== Conditions ===== | + | ===== 6. Conditions: User-definable parameters which trigger a generator auto-start. |
- | To get to // | + | To get to // |
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* **Do not run genset when AC 1 is in use**: This option is ideal for back-up systems where a Quattro has mains/grid electricity connected to its //AC-in 1// terminal, and a Genset connected to its //AC-in 2// terminal. With this option enabled, the Genset will only start after a mains failure. And where a mains failure has occurred, the Genset will automatically be stopped again as soon as mains power is restored. This functionality is not available for VE.Can connected Quattros. | * **Do not run genset when AC 1 is in use**: This option is ideal for back-up systems where a Quattro has mains/grid electricity connected to its //AC-in 1// terminal, and a Genset connected to its //AC-in 2// terminal. With this option enabled, the Genset will only start after a mains failure. And where a mains failure has occurred, the Genset will automatically be stopped again as soon as mains power is restored. This functionality is not available for VE.Can connected Quattros. | ||
- | The following parameters may be user-defined to trigger an automatic Generator start/stop: | + | === The following parameters may be user-defined to trigger an automatic Generator start/ |
* Manual | * Manual | ||
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Condition-parameters are prioritized in the order shown above. When a number of conditions are reached at the same time, only the highest-priority condition will be shown as active. | Condition-parameters are prioritized in the order shown above. When a number of conditions are reached at the same time, only the highest-priority condition will be shown as active. | ||
All enabled conditions will be evaluated - even if the generator is already running. When the active condition has been satisfied, an un-met parameter in a lower-priority condition will keep the generator running. | All enabled conditions will be evaluated - even if the generator is already running. When the active condition has been satisfied, an un-met parameter in a lower-priority condition will keep the generator running. | ||
- | ==== Relays triggered by Battery | + | === Relays triggered by Battery SOC === |
+ | |||
+ | ***Use Battery SOC value to start/ | ||
+ | ***Start when Battery SOC is lower than:** Set the depletion level for auto-start. | ||
+ | ***Start value during quiet hours:** During [[#Quiet hours|Quiet hours]] it may be desirable to delay an auto-start until it really can't be avoided. If //Quiet hours// has been defined, set a lower, more critical, autostart level. | ||
+ | ***Stop when Battery SOC is higher than:** Set the recharge level for auto-stop. | ||
+ | ***Stop value during quiet hours:** If [[#Quiet hours|Quiet hours]] has been defined, set a lower auto-stop level to achieve a shorter generator run-time. | ||
+ | |||
+ | === Relays triggered by Battery | ||
+ | |||
+ | ***Use Battery current value to start/ | ||
+ | ***Start when Battery current is higher than:** When a high AC demand is experienced which will soon exhaust the battery, the generator can be auto-started to assist in meeting that demand. Set the current-level at which this will occur. | ||
+ | ***Start value during quiet hours:** If [[#Quiet hours|Quiet hours]] has been defined, set a higher, more critical current value. | ||
+ | ***Start after condition is reached for:** Set a delay before auto-start. Some AC device will draw a short-term, high-peak current on start-up. Instigating a delay before auto-start will avoid starting the generator unnecessarily. | ||
+ | ***Stop when battery current is lower than:** Set the current for auto-stop. | ||
+ | ***Stop value during quiet hours:** If [[#Quiet hours|Quiet hours]] has been defined, set a higher current level to achieve shorter generator run-times. | ||
+ | ***Stop after condition is reached for:** Set a delay to ensure that the current-reduction condition is stable. | ||
+ | |||
+ | === Relays triggered by Battery Voltage | ||
+ | |||
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- | * **Use battery voltage value to start/ | + | * **Use battery voltage value to start/ |
* **Start when battery voltage is lower than**: When battery voltage falls below the value entered the relay will start the generator. | * **Start when battery voltage is lower than**: When battery voltage falls below the value entered the relay will start the generator. | ||
- | * **Start value during quiet hours**: If the [[# | + | * **Start value during quiet hours**: If [[# |
- | * ** Start after the condition is reached for**: This function allows the user to build in a delay between the above condition being met and a generator | + | * ** Start after the condition is reached for**: This function allows the user to build-in a delay between the auto-start |
* **Stop when battery voltage is higher than**: | * **Stop when battery voltage is higher than**: | ||
- | * **Stop value during quiet hours**: During | + | * **Stop value during quiet hours**: During |
* ** Stop after the condition is reached for**: This feature builds in a delay before stopping the generator after the ' | * ** Stop after the condition is reached for**: This feature builds in a delay before stopping the generator after the ' | ||
- | ==== Relays triggered by AC load | + | === Relays triggered by AC load === |
- | AC load triggers work similarly to other triggers but the feature is refined by a "Measurement" | + | AC load triggers work similarly to other triggers but the feature is refined by a //Measurement// setting. |
- | The "Measurement" | + | The //Measurement// setting is available on firmware v2.0 and later and has three possible values: |
* **Total consumption** (Default option) | * **Total consumption** (Default option) | ||
* **Inverter total AC out** | * **Inverter total AC out** | ||
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+ | === Relays triggered by Inverter High temperature === | ||
+ | |||
+ | ***Start on high temperature warning:** Toggle this feature on or off. | ||
+ | ***Start when warning is active for:** Set a delay to avoid temperature rises which are temporary, caused by brief high AC demands. | ||
+ | ***When warning is cleared stop after:** Set a delay to ensure that a reduction in inverter temperature - usually caused by lower power demand - is stable. | ||
- | ==== Automatic periodic 'Test run' | + | |
+ | === Relays triggered by Inverter overload === | ||
+ | |||
+ | ***Start on overload warning:** Toggle this feature on or off. | ||
+ | ***Start when warning is active for:** Set a delay to ensure that the inverter overload warning has not been triggered by a high-demand of AC power of only short duration. | ||
+ | ***When warning is cleared stop after:** Set a delay to ensure that the reduction in AC power demand is stable. | ||
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+ | === Automatic periodic 'Test run' === | ||
This feature allows automatic generator starts, periodically, | This feature allows automatic generator starts, periodically, | ||
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* **Run until battery is fully charged**: Enabling this feature will cause the 'test run' to continue until the battery is fully charged - instead of for a fixed amount of time. | * **Run until battery is fully charged**: Enabling this feature will cause the 'test run' to continue until the battery is fully charged - instead of for a fixed amount of time. | ||
- | ==== Manual | + | |
- | Use the manual | + | === Manual-Start |
+ | Use the // | ||
There are two ways to start the generator manually: | There are two ways to start the generator manually: | ||
- | * **Using menu**: Go to Generator start and stop -> Manual start; and then toggle the graphic to start the generator. | + | * **Using |
- | * **Using | + | * **Using |
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- | **WARNING: | + | **WARNING: |
- | The stop timer is available | + | The stop timer is available to both methods of manually remote-starting |
- | Stopping | + | Note that stopping |
- | ===== Quiet hours ===== | + | === Quiet hours === |
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- | Quiet hours allows you to set a time zone for nighttime with values that make the generator | + | //Quiet hours// allows you to define |
- | When the "Quiet hours" mode is active, | + | From the main menu go to: Settings -> Generator start/stop -> Settings; and then |
+ | toggle-on the //Quiet hours// feature. Define | ||
- | To enable it go to the settings menu and set the " | + | // |
- | Once enabled start and end time settings will become visible. | + | |
- | You can make the "Quiet hours" | + | === Using "Quiet hours" |
+ | Alternatively, | ||
- | === Using "Quiet hours" | + | * **Early morning/low SOC**: Battery SOC is often lowest in the morning. Couple this with cloudy weather first thing - or panels which have a westerly bias, and which tend to do better in the afternoon; and you have a circumstance where the generator may auto-start in the morning triggered by a low battery SOC condition - yet later on when the day brightens the solar energy is wasted because the work has already been done by the generator. Setting the //Quiet hours// feature |
- | Besides | + | |
- | Examples of the use of different time zones: | + | * **Holiday home**: Holiday homes which are only inhabited part-time experience much deeper power-draws when they are in use. The //Quiet hours// feature can be used to set much lower auto-start parameters when the house is in use, than when it is empty. Quiet hours should be set to be the //permanent condition// (See above) during occupation; and the //Quiet hours// feature can be toggled ' |
+ | ===== 7. Troubleshooting ===== | ||
+ | === Fischer Panda: Generator does not start and " | ||
- | * **Solar system**: A cloudy morning may cause the generator to start by a low SOC condition, then two hours after the clouds go away. In this case your batteries are charged and your solar system wasting free energy. To avoid this situation you can set a time zone for daytime with a lower start value for the SOC condition. | + | Enable |
- | * **Away mode**: Some holiday houses are only inhabited on weekends during which power consumption is larger and the generator has to take care of keep batteries in good condfition. The rest of the week the battery SOC level can be lower waiting to be charged by solar energy. With time zones you can set a secondary time zone for the whole day and only enable/disable it when the house is uninhabited. | + | ===Fischer Panda: Auto start/stop function has stopped working after an error=== |
- | =====Troubleshooting ===== | + | Make sure that the issue is solved, then clear the error, and the auto start/stop function will work again. |
- | ====Fischer Panda: Generator does not start and " | + | |
- | Enable the " | ||
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- | ====Fischer Panda: Auto start/stop function stopped working after an error==== | ||
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- | Make sure that the issue is solved and clear the error to make the auto start/stop function work again. | ||
===== DISQUS ===== | ===== DISQUS ===== | ||
~~DISQUS~~ | ~~DISQUS~~ | ||
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ccgx/generator_start_stop.txt · Last modified: 2021-02-05 08:58 by mvader