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- | ====== Generator auto start/ | + | ====== |
- | ===== Introduction ===== | + | ===== 1. Introduction ===== |
- | An internal relay on the CCGX/Venus GX can be used to automatically start and stop a generator. This relay - or switch - can be ' | + | An internal relay on a [[venus-os: |
+ | This is one of the available options to automatically start and stop a generator. See the [[auto-generator-start-stop: | ||
+ | |||
+ | ===== 2. Wiring ===== | ||
Firstly, wire the relay to a genset. The relay is located on the back of the CCGX - marked //Relay//. If using a Venus GX, two relays will be seen at the bottom of the unit - only //Relay 1// can be used for the generator automatic start/stop functionality. | Firstly, wire the relay to a genset. The relay is located on the back of the CCGX - marked //Relay//. If using a Venus GX, two relays will be seen at the bottom of the unit - only //Relay 1// can be used for the generator automatic start/stop functionality. | ||
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Besides driving the internal relay, the auto start/stop functionality can be also enabled to directly control supported Fischer Panda generators. For more information on how to connect Fischer Panda generators, see [[ccgx: | Besides driving the internal relay, the auto start/stop functionality can be also enabled to directly control supported Fischer Panda generators. For more information on how to connect Fischer Panda generators, see [[ccgx: | ||
- | ===== Enabling the start/stop function ===== | + | |
+ | There are many variations on the generator side for wiring and you should also consult your generator manual or supplier regarding their remote wire start configuration. | ||
+ | |||
+ | ===== 3. Enabling the start/stop function ===== | ||
Go to: Setttings -> Relay and set the // | Go to: Setttings -> Relay and set the // | ||
- | ====Relay==== | + | ===Relay=== |
{{: | {{: | ||
Now that has been enabled, all the settings pertaining to the //Automatic Generator Start/ | Now that has been enabled, all the settings pertaining to the //Automatic Generator Start/ | ||
- | ====Fischer Panda==== | + | ===Fischer Panda Generators=== |
- Enable the " | - Enable the " | ||
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- | =====Main page===== | + | ===== 4. Generator start/stop - Main page===== |
- | From the main menu select Settings > Generator start/stop: | + | From the Main Menu select Settings > Generator start/stop: |
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* **Error**: Error description. | * **Error**: Error description. | ||
- | * **Runtime**: | + | * **Runtime**: |
* **Total run time**: Accumulated running time since the first start. | * **Total run time**: Accumulated running time since the first start. | ||
- | * **Time to next test run**: When the test run option is enabled this item shows the time remaining until the next test run. | + | * **Time to next test run**: When the 'test run' |
* **Daily runtime**: Running time history for the last 30 days. | * **Daily runtime**: Running time history for the last 30 days. | ||
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* **Settings**: | * **Settings**: | ||
- | ===== Settings ===== | + | ===== 5. Settings ===== |
{{: | {{: | ||
* **Conditions**: | * **Conditions**: | ||
- | * **Minimum | + | * **Minimum |
- | * **Detect generator at AC input**: Enabling this feature will sound an alarm whenever power is //not// detected at the AC input terminal of the Inverter/ | + | * **Detect generator at AC input**: Enabling this feature will raise an alarm on the GX device, as well as trigger an alarm email from the VRM portal(1), |
* **Quiet hours**: See [[#Quiet hours|Quiet hours]] | * **Quiet hours**: See [[#Quiet hours|Quiet hours]] | ||
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* **Generator total run time**: Reset, or modify, the total run-time hours. | * **Generator total run time**: Reset, or modify, the total run-time hours. | ||
- | ===== Conditions ===== | + | ===== 6. Conditions: User-definable parameters which trigger a generator auto-start. |
- | To get to // | + | To get to // |
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- | * **Battery monitor**: Select how the battery will be monitored, if at all. The battery monitor will be used for DC-related conditions. | + | * **Battery monitor**: Select how the battery will be monitored |
- | * **On loss of communication**: | + | * **On loss of communication**: |
* **Stop the generator**: | * **Stop the generator**: | ||
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* **Do not run genset when AC 1 is in use**: This option is ideal for back-up systems where a Quattro has mains/grid electricity connected to its //AC-in 1// terminal, and a Genset connected to its //AC-in 2// terminal. With this option enabled, the Genset will only start after a mains failure. And where a mains failure has occurred, the Genset will automatically be stopped again as soon as mains power is restored. This functionality is not available for VE.Can connected Quattros. | * **Do not run genset when AC 1 is in use**: This option is ideal for back-up systems where a Quattro has mains/grid electricity connected to its //AC-in 1// terminal, and a Genset connected to its //AC-in 2// terminal. With this option enabled, the Genset will only start after a mains failure. And where a mains failure has occurred, the Genset will automatically be stopped again as soon as mains power is restored. This functionality is not available for VE.Can connected Quattros. | ||
- | The following | + | === The following |
- | | + | |
- | | + | |
- | * **AC load*** | + | * Manual |
- | * **Battery | + | * State of charge (SOC) |
- | * **Battery | + | |
- | * **Inverter | + | * Battery current |
- | * **Inverter overload** | + | |
- | * **Periodic test run** | + | |
- | * The measured | + | * Inverter overload |
+ | * Periodic test run | ||
+ | (* The value measured here will be the total AC consumption of the system.)\\ | ||
+ | |||
+ | Condition-parameters are prioritized in the order shown above. When a number of conditions are reached at the same time, only the highest-priority condition will be shown as active. | ||
+ | All enabled conditions will be evaluated - even if the generator is already running. When the active condition has been satisfied, an un-met parameter in a lower-priority condition will keep the generator running. | ||
+ | === Relays triggered by Battery SOC === | ||
+ | |||
+ | | ||
+ | ***Start when Battery | ||
+ | ***Start value during quiet hours:** During [[#Quiet hours|Quiet hours]] it may be desirable to delay an auto-start until it really can't be avoided. If //Quiet hours// has been defined, set a lower, more critical, autostart level. | ||
+ | ***Stop when Battery | ||
+ | ***Stop value during quiet hours:** If [[#Quiet hours|Quiet hours]] has been defined, set a lower auto-stop level to achieve a shorter generator run-time. | ||
+ | |||
+ | === Relays triggered by Battery Current === | ||
+ | |||
+ | ***Use Battery current value to start/ | ||
+ | ***Start when Battery current is higher than:** When a high AC demand is experienced which will soon exhaust the battery, the generator can be auto-started to assist in meeting that demand. Set the current-level at which this will occur. | ||
+ | | ||
+ | ***Start after condition is reached for:** Set a delay before auto-start. Some AC device will draw a short-term, high-peak current on start-up. Instigating a delay before auto-start will avoid starting the generator unnecessarily. | ||
+ | ***Stop when battery current is lower than:** Set the current for auto-stop. | ||
+ | ***Stop | ||
+ | ***Stop after condition | ||
+ | |||
+ | === Relays triggered by Battery Voltage === | ||
- | Conditions are evaluated in the order shown above and when multiple conditions are reached only the top one will be shown as active condition. | ||
- | All enabled conditions are evaluated even if the generator is already started so when the active conditions ends, the next reached condition will keep the generator running. | ||
- | ==== Condition settings ==== | ||
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- | * **Use " | + | * **Use battery voltage |
- | * **Start when " | + | * **Start when battery voltage |
- | * **Start value during quiet hours**: | + | * **Start value during quiet hours**: |
- | * ** Start after the condition is reached for**: | + | * ** Start after the condition is reached for**: |
- | * **Stop when " | + | * **Stop when battery voltage |
- | * **Stop value during quiet hours**: | + | * **Stop value during quiet hours**: |
- | * ** Stop after the condition is reached for**: | + | * ** Stop after the condition is reached for**: |
- | * Higher/ | + | === Relays triggered by AC load === |
- | ==== AC load condition ==== | + | AC load triggers work similarly to other triggers |
- | AC load condition works like the rest of conditions | + | |
+ | The // | ||
+ | * **Total consumption** (Default option) | ||
+ | * **Inverter total AC out** | ||
+ | * **Inverter AC out highest phase** | ||
{{: | {{: | ||
{{: | {{: | ||
- | The " | ||
- | * **Total consumption** (Default option) | ||
- | * **Inverter total AC out** | ||
- | * **Inverter AC out highest phase** | ||
+ | === Relays triggered by Inverter High temperature === | ||
+ | |||
+ | ***Start on high temperature warning:** Toggle this feature on or off. | ||
+ | ***Start when warning is active for:** Set a delay to avoid temperature rises which are temporary, caused by brief high AC demands. | ||
+ | ***When warning is cleared stop after:** Set a delay to ensure that a reduction in inverter temperature - usually caused by lower power demand - is stable. | ||
- | ==== Test run condition ==== | ||
- | Allows you to program | + | === Relays triggered by Inverter overload === |
+ | |||
+ | ***Start on overload warning:** Toggle this feature on or off. | ||
+ | ***Start when warning is active for:** Set a delay to ensure that the inverter overload warning has not been triggered by a high-demand of AC power of only short duration. | ||
+ | ***When warning is cleared stop after:** Set a delay to ensure that the reduction in AC power demand is stable. | ||
+ | |||
+ | === Automatic periodic 'Test run' === | ||
+ | |||
+ | This feature allows automatic generator starts, periodically, | ||
{{: | {{: | ||
- | * **Test run interval**: | + | * **Test run interval**: |
+ | |||
+ | * **Skip test run if has been running for**: The test will be skipped if during the test run interval the generator ran for at least as long as it would on a 'test run'. | ||
- | * **Skip test run if has been running for**: The test will be skipped if during | + | * **Test interval start date**: The 'test run' interval counter |
- | * **Test interval start date**: The interval count will start based on this date, this setting can be set in the future and the interval | + | * **Start time**: Time of day at which the generator 'test run' |
- | * **Start time**: Time of day in which the generator will start | + | * **Test duration**: Duration |
- | * **Test duration**: Duration of the test | + | * **Run until battery is fully charged**: Enabling this feature will cause the 'test run' to continue until the battery is fully charged - instead of for a fixed amount of time. |
- | * **Run until battery is fully charged**: Stops the generator after the battery is fully charged instead of a fixed amount of time | ||
- | ==== Manual | + | === Manual-Start Feature |
- | Use the manual | + | Use the // |
There are two ways to start the generator manually: | There are two ways to start the generator manually: | ||
- | * **Using menu**: Go to Generator start and stop -> Manual start and use the switch | + | * **Using |
- | * **Using | + | * **Using |
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- | **WARNING: | + | **WARNING: |
- | In both options the use of a stop timer is available, | + | The stop timer is available |
- | Manually stop the generator | + | Note that stopping |
- | + | === Quiet hours === | |
- | ===== Quiet hours ===== | + | |
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- | Quiet hours allows you to set a time zone for nighttime with values that make the generator | + | //Quiet hours// allows you to define |
- | When the "Quiet hours" mode is active, | + | From the main menu go to: Settings -> Generator start/stop -> Settings; and then |
+ | toggle-on the //Quiet hours// feature. Define | ||
- | To enable it go to the settings menu and set the " | + | // |
- | Once enabled start and end time settings will become visible. | + | |
- | You can make the "Quiet hours" | + | === Using "Quiet hours" |
+ | Alternatively, | ||
- | === Using "Quiet hours" | + | * **Early morning/low SOC**: Battery SOC is often lowest in the morning. Couple this with cloudy weather first thing - or panels which have a westerly bias, and which tend to do better in the afternoon; and you have a circumstance where the generator may auto-start in the morning triggered by a low battery SOC condition - yet later on when the day brightens the solar energy is wasted because the work has already been done by the generator. Setting the //Quiet hours// feature |
- | Besides | + | |
- | Examples of the use of different time zones: | + | * **Holiday home**: Holiday homes which are only inhabited part-time experience much deeper power-draws when they are in use. The //Quiet hours// feature can be used to set much lower auto-start parameters when the house is in use, than when it is empty. Quiet hours should be set to be the //permanent condition// (See above) during occupation; and the //Quiet hours// feature can be toggled ' |
+ | ===== 7. Troubleshooting ===== | ||
+ | === Fischer Panda: Generator does not start and " | ||
- | * **Solar system**: A cloudy morning may cause the generator to start by a low SOC condition, then two hours after the clouds go away. In this case your batteries are charged and your solar system wasting free energy. To avoid this situation you can set a time zone for daytime with a lower start value for the SOC condition. | + | Enable |
- | * **Away mode**: Some holiday houses are only inhabited on weekends during which power consumption is larger and the generator has to take care of keep batteries in good condfition. The rest of the week the battery SOC level can be lower waiting to be charged by solar energy. With time zones you can set a secondary time zone for the whole day and only enable/disable it when the house is uninhabited. | + | ===Fischer Panda: Auto start/stop function has stopped working after an error=== |
- | =====Troubleshooting ===== | + | Make sure that the issue is solved, then clear the error, and the auto start/stop function will work again. |
- | ====Fischer Panda: Generator does not start and " | + | |
- | Enable the " | ||
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- | ====Fischer Panda: Auto start/stop function stopped working after an error==== | ||
- | |||
- | Make sure that the issue is solved and clear the error to make the auto start/stop function work again. | ||
===== DISQUS ===== | ===== DISQUS ===== | ||
~~DISQUS~~ | ~~DISQUS~~ | ||
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ccgx/generator_start_stop.txt · Last modified: 2021-02-05 08:58 by mvader