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ccgx:ccgx_fronius [2017-09-01 11:55] – [CCGX & Fronius PV Inverters] mvaderccgx:ccgx_fronius [2019-12-03 15:30] – [2.2 Adding Fronius to the CCGX] iburger
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 ====== CCGX & Fronius PV Inverters ====== ====== CCGX & Fronius PV Inverters ======
  
-By connecting a Fronius PV Inverter and [[https://www.victronenergy.com/panel-systems-remote-monitoring/color-control|Color Control GX]] (CCGX) together you can:+By connecting a Fronius PV Inverter and [[https://www.victronenergy.com/panel-systems-remote-monitoring/color-control|Color Control GX]] (CCGX) together you will be able to:
   - See Fronius information on the CCGX.   - See Fronius information on the CCGX.
   - Monitor the Fronius on the VRM Portal.   - Monitor the Fronius on the VRM Portal.
-  - Fronius kWh reading will be used for the solar yield and also the consumption tab on VRM. +  - Allow the Victron system to control the Fronius output power, Zero feed-in. See the [[ess:design-installation-manual|ESS manual]], chapter 2.1.3 Fronius Zero feed-in for details.
-  - Have the Victron system control the Fronius output power, Zero feed-in. See the [[ess:design-installation-manual|ESS manual]], chapter 2.1.3 Fronius Zero feed-in for details.+
  
-This document describes how to setup the monitoring functions. To configure a Fronius PV inverter and the Multi or Quattro, see [[ac_coupling:fronius]].+This document describes how to setup the monitoring functions. For more information on using Fronius PV Inverters in a Victron system, see[[ac_coupling:fronius]].
  
 ===== 1. Requirements ===== ===== 1. Requirements =====
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 | Fronius Symo       | No accessory needed, datamanager card installed from factory | | Fronius Symo       | No accessory needed, datamanager card installed from factory |
 | Fronius Galvo      | No accessory needed, datamanager card installed from factory | | Fronius Galvo      | No accessory needed, datamanager card installed from factory |
-| Fronius IG Plus    | Purchase and install the [[http://www.fronius.com/cps/rde/xchg/SID-FD8CF128-0D078554/fronius_international/hs.xsl/83_27954_ENG_HTML.htm#.VPhTUfnF_jU|datamanager 2.0]] |+| Fronius Primo      | No accessory needed, datamanager card installed from factory | 
 +| Fronius IG Plus (*)   | Purchase and install the [[http://www.fronius.com/cps/rde/xchg/SID-FD8CF128-0D078554/fronius_international/hs.xsl/83_27954_ENG_HTML.htm#.VPhTUfnF_jU|datamanager 2.0]] |
 | Fronius Agilo      | Purchase and install the [[http://www.fronius.com/cps/rde/xchg/SID-FD8CF128-0D078554/fronius_international/hs.xsl/83_27954_ENG_HTML.htm#.VPhTUfnF_jU|datamanager box]] | | Fronius Agilo      | Purchase and install the [[http://www.fronius.com/cps/rde/xchg/SID-FD8CF128-0D078554/fronius_international/hs.xsl/83_27954_ENG_HTML.htm#.VPhTUfnF_jU|datamanager box]] |
  
-All the new inverters, for example the upcoming Fronius Primo are fitted by default with the datamanager 2.0.+(*) The Fronius Zero feed-in feature - which is part of an Energy Storage System [[ess:design-installation-manual|ESS]] - will work on all the above models except the //IG Plus//.
  
-Both the Fronius and the CCGX need to be connected on the same LANeither via Wi-Fi or Ethernet.+All recent Fronius inverters - for example the Fronius Primo - will arrive fitted with a //datamanager 2.0//, as standard. 
 + 
 +Both the Fronius and the CCGX need to be connected on the same LAN either via Wi-Fi or Ethernet.
  
 Note that the [[http://www.fronius.com/cps/rde/xchg/SID-7A2958B6-BB813144/fronius_international/hs.xsl/83_16106_DEU_HTML.htm|Datalogger Web]] is not supported. Contact your Fronius dealer to find out about the upgrading options. Note that the [[http://www.fronius.com/cps/rde/xchg/SID-7A2958B6-BB813144/fronius_international/hs.xsl/83_16106_DEU_HTML.htm|Datalogger Web]] is not supported. Contact your Fronius dealer to find out about the upgrading options.
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 ===== 2. Configuring ===== ===== 2. Configuring =====
  
-==== 2.1 Setup ====+==== 2.1 Setup Local Area Network (LAN) Configuration==== 
 +In order to establish a data communication between the Fronius and the CCGX, you will have to setup a valid LAN IP address on the Fronius, using one of the following methods. If you are in doubt, which method is the best for your network, please ask your system administrator or IT support.
  
-  - Connect both the Fronius and the CCGX on the same LAN networkin the same subnet. If you don'know what a subnet is, don't worry, you'll probably be fine. +=== 2.1.1 DHCP addressing method === 
-  - Configure the Fronius datamanager according to its manual. (On DHCP networksno configuration of the datamanager is needed) +If you have a DHCP server running on the LAN the Fronius and CCGX are connected to, you don'need to manually configure your LAN IP addresses as the DHCP server does this for you. Make surethat the "IP Switch" is in "B" (defaultposition on the datamanager, to allow the Fronius to obtain it'IP address. It can be reviewed in the Address Lease Table of the DHCP server.
-  - In the CCGXnavigate to settings and then the Fronius PV Inverters section. You will see this menu: \\ {{:ccgx:fronius_setup_menu.png?nolink|}} \\ \\ +
-  - Press scan in the CCGX menu, and after completion go into the Inverters submenu to see the results. In case scanning does not find the inverter, manually add the IP address of the Fronius Datamanager card or box. +
-  - After it has found inverters, you can see them in the Inverters menu. The name used in the menu is the serial number of the inverter, which you can find on the inverter itself: \\ {{:ccgx:ccgx-fronius-inverters.png?nolink|}} \\ \\ +
-  - Configure the position relative to the Multi or Quattro (AC Input / AC Output). and phase for each inverter in the list: \\ {{:ccgx:ccgx-fronius-position.png?nolink|}} \\ \\ +
-    * Position: the position relative to the Multi or Quattro [AC Input 1 / AC Input 2 / AC Output] +
-    * Phase: the phase on which the PV Inverter installed. Disabled and set to Multi-phase for split- and three-phase PV Inverters   +
-    * Show: show this device in the system or not. Use this feature when there are multiple, separate, energy systems on the same LAN. +
-  - Done!+
  
-==== 2.1 Device scan details ==== +=== 2.1.2 Link-local addressing method  === 
-As mentioned above the CCGX should find all Fronius inverters automatically. It will scan all IP-addresses in the local network (that isall IP-addresses within the netmask assigned to the CCGX) to check whether or not they are Fronius datamanager cards. This scan will be performed during CCGX startupand whenever the CCGX loses connection to a data card. The scan can be started manually as well by pressing 'Press to scan'.+When no DHCP server is present on the LAN and you only have one Fronius unit to connectLink-local addressing can be used to establish data communication between the CCGX and the Fronius. 
 +This could be the caseif you use a WiFi Network for the CCGX to gain access to the Internet and have Fronius connected to the wired LAN Interface of that CCGX
  
-Usually a device scan is completed within a minute. If you have a large subnetthe scan may need much more time. If you don't want to wait for completion, you can enter an IP-address manually.+Notethat no direct access to the internet will be possible for the Fronius in that configuration and therefore only communication to the CCGX is possible
  
-All data cards found will be inserted into the 'Detected data cards' listThe CCGX will regularly (once every minute) scan the IP-addresses in this list in order to find new data cardsor reconnect to data cards when the connection was lost.+This method can only be used to configure a single Fronius unit within a LAN. Multiple Fronius devices in the same LAN must be configured with DHCP, or manual addressing method. 
 +  - Make sure the "IP Switch" on the Fronius Datamanager is on position "A" {{:ccgx:fronius_datamanager_ip_switch.png?600|}} 
 +  Connect both, the Fronius and the CCGX, on the same LAN network, either directly with a LAN cable or using a network switch.  
 +  - The Fronius is now accessible and having a "Link-local" capable IP address configured: 169.254.0.180
  
-If you changed to TCP port number on the data manageryou can change this as well on the CCGX (TCP port). Otherwiseleave this setting at its default (80).+=== 2.1.3 manual addressing method === 
 +You will have to configure the IP address of the Fronius to be in the same subnet as the IP address of the CCGX. To do this, first have a look at the IP configuration your CCGX is using on that network.  
 + 
 +The IP configuration can be reviewed in Settings --> Ethernet. The important settings are the IP address and Subnet Mask. 
 + 
 +If the LAN IP address and Subnet Mask of the CCGX is not configured yet, you will have to set it first.  
 + 
 +As an example, the IP address on the CCGX could be: 192.168.10.1 and the Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0.  
 + 
 +Configuring the Fronius to the same subnet means setting a manual IP address to: 192.168.10.2 and the same Subnet Mask of 255.255.255.0 on the Fronius.  
 + 
 +Every device on your LAN has to have a unique (different) IP address and so the last segment (.1/.2) in this example has to differ on every device on the same LAN. The highest valuethat can be set for this segment is 254.  
 + 
 +The subnet is described by the first 3 segments in this case and so they have to be the same. Configuring multiple devices with exactly the same IP addresses will lead to network errors. Use different IP subnets for the WiFi and wired LAN interface. The IP address ranges used on each interface should differ in the third segment. 
 + 
 +As an example: 192.168.10.1-254 for LAN IP's and 192.168.11.1-254 for WiFi IP's. 
 + 
 +Configure the Fronius Datamanager to use an IP address on the same subnet, as described above.  
 +You may need to refer to the Fronius operating manual for how this is done for your Fronius Inverter model,   
 + 
 +If you would like to connect the Fronius to be able to use the internet connection of your Local network, you have to set Gateway and DNS IP addresses on the Fronius as well. They should be exactly the same as in the Settings --> Ethernet of the CCGX
 + 
 + 
 + 
 + 
 + 
 +==== 2.2 Adding Fronius to the CCGX ==== 
 + 
 +1. In the CCGX, navigate to //Settings// and then the //PV Inverters// section. You will see this menu: \\ {{:ccgx:pvinverter_setup_menu.png?nolink|}} \\ \\ 
 + 
 +2. Select //Scan// in the CCGX menu, and after completion go into the Inverters submenu to see the results. If scanning does not find the inverter, manually add the IP address of the Fronius Datamanager <del>from its card, or box.</del> 
 + 
 +3. The CCGX will automatically scan for PV-inverters on the local network if no PV-inverters were found previously or if a previously-found PV-inverter cannot be contacted. This will happen if the IP address of the PV-inverter changes. To prevent automatic scanning, disable //Automatic scanning//
 + 
 +    * We recommend that automatic scanning is enabled (the defaultin residential and small commercial applications. 
 +    * In larger installationsor where the scanning interferes with other equipment on the network, automatic scanning should be disabled. 
 +    * Note that if DHCP is used to allocate dynamic addresses in your computer network, the connection to your PV-inverter may be permanently lost if automatic scanning is disabled and the IP-address of the PV-inverter changes.   
 + 
 +4. Once located, you will see the Inverters listed in the menu. The name used will be the serial number of the inverter - which you will also find on the inverter itself: \\ {{:ccgx:ccgx-pvinverters.png?nolink|}} \\ \\ 
 + 
 +5. Configure the //position// relative to the Multi or Quattro (is it: AC Input / AC Output); and the //show// setting for each inverter in the list: \\ {{:ccgx:ccgx-pvinverter-position.png?nolink|}} \\ \\ 
 +    * Position: Select the position relative to the Multi or Quattro [AC Input 1 / AC Input 2 / AC Output] 
 +    * Show: Select whether to how this inverter in the system or not. Use this feature when there are multiple, separate, energy systems on the same LAN. 
 + 
 +6. Configure the //phase// for each inverter in the list: \\ {{:ccgx:ccgx-pvinverter-phase.png?nolink|}} \\ \\ 
 + 
 +    * Phase: Select the phase on which the PV Inverter installed. This setting is automatically set to Multi-phase for split- and three-phase PV Inverters. 
 +    * In some cases a single-phase PV inverter may deliver power at 240V or 208V across two downstream phases, such as in a residential split-phase configuration in North America.  In this case the setting will not be set to Multi-phase automatically and you need to select //Split-phase (L1+L2)//. This instructs the CCGX to divide the measured incoming power evenly across the two phases for display and accounting purposes. 
 + 
 +7. Done! 
 +==== 2.3 Device scan details ==== 
 +As mentioned above the CCGX should find all Fronius inverters automatically. It will scan all IP-addresses in the local network (that is, all IP-addresses within the netmask assigned to the CCGX) to check whether or not they are //Fronius datamanager// cards. This scan will be performed during CCGX startup; whenever the CCGX loses connection to a data card; and a scan can also be initiated manually by selecting 'Press to scan'
 + 
 +Usually a scan is completed within a minute - though if you have a large subnet it may take much more time. If you don't want to wait for completion, enter an IP-address manually. 
 + 
 +All data cards found will be entered in the 'Detected data cards' list. The CCGX will regularly (once every minute) scan the IP-addresses in this list in order to find new data cards, or reconnect to data cards whenever the connection was lost. 
 + 
 +If you don't want an automatic scan to be performed, disable the //Automatic scanning// setting on the PV-inverters menu. 
 + 
 +===== 3. Monitoring CCGX ===== 
 + 
 +When the Fronius is detected and configured on the CCGX all PV inverters will be visible in the devicelist.
  
-==== 3. Monitoring CCGX ==== 
-When the Fronius is detected and configured on the CCGX every PV inverter will be visible in the devicelist. 
 {{ :ccgx:ccgx-fronius0.png?nolink |}} {{ :ccgx:ccgx-fronius0.png?nolink |}}
 \\ \\
-To see the device details navigate into the menu. +To see the device detailsnavigate to the menu. 
-Here you can see the current state, current power generated, total power generated+Here you can see the current state, current power generated, total power generated
 {{ :ccgx:ccgx-fronius1.png?nolink |}} {{ :ccgx:ccgx-fronius1.png?nolink |}}
 {{ :ccgx:ccgx-fronius2.png?nolink |}} {{ :ccgx:ccgx-fronius2.png?nolink |}}
 \\ \\
-For more details on the device navigate into the Device menu. Here you can find: ipadres, Product name, product ID, serial number+For more details on each device navigate to the Device menu. Here you will find: IP address, Product name, product ID, and Serial number, etc. 
 {{ :ccgx:ccgx-fronius-device2.png?nolink |}} {{ :ccgx:ccgx-fronius-device2.png?nolink |}}
  
 +=== Inverter status ===
  
-==== 4. Monitoring on the VRM Portal ==== +The following status values are supported: 
-To see the yield on the VRM site in the Advanced tab, do not forget to enable the PV Inverter yield widget(s) in Settings -> Advanced tab setup.+^ State ^ Meaning ^ 
 +| Standby | The PV-inverter is not generating power. | 
 +| Startup | The PV-inverter is starting up, but not generating power yet. | 
 +| Running (MPPT) | The PV-inverter is running at maximum power. | 
 +| Running (Throttled) | The PV-inverter is running, but power is being throttled. | 
 +| Error | One or more errors are present.\\ Note that not all errors will cause the PV-inverter to shut down. | 
 + 
 +===== 4. Monitoring on the VRM Portal ====
 + 
 +To see the yield on the VRM site (in the //Advanced// tab)don'forget to enable the PV Inverter yield widget(s) in Settings -> Advanced tab setup.
  
 {{ :ccgx:vrm-fronius.jpg?nolink |}} {{ :ccgx:vrm-fronius.jpg?nolink |}}
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 ===== DISQUS ===== ===== DISQUS =====
 ~~DISQUS~~ ~~DISQUS~~
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