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 ===== Introduction ===== ===== Introduction =====
  
-[[https://www.mgenergysystems.eu/|MG Energy Systems]] (MG) develops and produces advanced battery systems for MarineSolar/off-grid, industrial and mobile applications. The roots of the cooperation with Victron Energy goes back to 2011 when we developed our first Lithium-Ion battery systems and these were added to Victron’s product range. A development cooperation was setup to achieve maximum compatibility, performance, functionality and safety between our battery systems and Victron’s inverter/chargers. This close development is still an ongoing process. From Master BMS firmware development with new functions to GX products scripts and GUI to extend functionality and compatibility.+[[https://www.mgenergysystems.eu/|MG Energy Systems]] MG Energy Systems (MG) specializes in high-end lithium-ion battery system solutions, featuring innovative technologies for the best performance. These lithium-ion battery systems are ideal for full-electric and hybrid marine propulsion systems, off-grid/Solarmachinery and vehicle applications. 
  
-{{ :battery_compatibility:400kwh-lithium-ion-system.jpg?nolink&400 |400 kWh ESS system (80x HE200Ah + 1x Master LV 1000A)}}+The cooperation with Victron Energy goes back all the way to 2010. Back then we started developing our first Lithium-Ion battery systems. These battery systems were added to the Victron product range. To achieve maximum compatibility, performance, functionality and safety between our battery systems and Victron’s inverter/chargers, we decided together that it would be beneficial for both to set up a development cooperation. This close development cooperation is still an ongoing process.  
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 +{{ :battery_compatibility:mg_product_family.png?800 |}}
 ===== Products ===== ===== Products =====
  
-MG has developed a complete range of products with all the same philosophy to provide modular and scalable solutions from 12 VDC to 800 VDC. +Modularity and scalability lay the basis of the MG system philosophy. As a result MG offers system solutions from 12 Vdc up to 900 Vdc. Each MG battery system consists of the following:
-Each battery system consists out of the following: +
-  * One or multiple Master BMS’s ([[https://www.mgenergysystems.eu/products/mg-master-lv/|MG Master LV]] (Lynx Ion BMS) or [[https://www.mgenergysystems.eu/products/mg-master-hv/|MG Master HV]]). +
-  * One or multiple battery modules ([[https://www.mgenergysystems.eu/products/mg-he-series/|HE Series]], [[https://www.mgenergysystems.eu/products/mg-hp-series/|HP Series]], [[https://www.mgenergysystems.eu/products/mg-lfp-series/|LFP Series]], [[https://www.mgenergysystems.eu/products/mg-uhe-series/|UHE Series]], [[https://www.mgenergysystems.eu/products/mg-rs-series/|RS Series]], [[https://www.mgenergysystems.eu/products/mg-e-rack-series/|E-Rack Series]]). +
-Different setups can be created at different voltages and capacities. The most common to connect to Victron equipment is a Master LV in combination with one of the battery module series from 12 VDC to 48 VDC. +
-For support information you can contact [[support@mgenergysystems.eu]].+
  
-{{ :battery_compatibility:master-lv.png?direct&400 | MG Master LV}} 
  
-===== Product compatibility =====+One or more Master BMS’s 
 +  
 +  * [[https://www.mgenergysystems.eu/products/mg-master-lv/ |MG Master LV]] (What used to be the Lynx Ion BMS)  
 +  * [[https://www.mgenergysystems.eu/products/mg-master-hv/ |MG Master HV]]
  
-MG is the only battery system provider that has VE.CAN implemented in the Master BMS. This has the advantage to directly control VE.CAN equipment on this communication bus like VE.CAN MPPT’s and skylla-I’s. Another advantage is that the VE.CAN bus can be connected to the existing NMEA2000 CAN-Bus networks. The default selected mode for the VE.CAN on the GX products (CCGX, Octo GX, Venus GX and CANvu GX) is used. 
  
-{{ :battery_compatibility:ccgx-screen-can.png?direct&400 |CAN-bus profile}}+One or more battery modules
  
-==== GX products requirement ====+  * [[https://www.mgenergysystems.eu/en/products/lfp-12v/ |LFP 12V]]  
 +  * [[https://www.mgenergysystems.eu/en/products/lfp-24v/ |LFP 24V]]  
 +  * [[https://www.mgenergysystems.eu/en/products/rs-series/ |RS Series]]  
 +  * [[https://www.mgenergysystems.eu/en/products/smartconnect/ |SmartConnect]]
  
-One of the GX products needs to be connected in between the Master BMS and inverter/chargers with VE.Bus or VE.Direct to provide charge and discharge control by DVCC. The GX products work like an advanced gateway. 
  
-==== Compatible Victron Energy products ====+One or more MG Accessories 
 + 
 +  * [[https://www.mgenergysystems.eu/en/products/smartlink-mx/ |SmartLink MX]]  
 +  * [[https://www.mgenergysystems.eu/en/products/energy-monitor/ |Energy Monitor]] 
 +  * [[https://www.mgenergysystems.eu/en/products/mg-connect-app/ |Connect App]] 
 +  * [[https://www.mgenergysystems.eu/en/products/energy-portal/ |Energy Portal]] 
 + 
 +Easily create different setups at different voltages and capacities. When creating an MG Victron system set up, the most common is a 12 Vdc to 48 Vdc system. This includes the Master LV in combination with one of the battery series.  
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 + 
 + 
 +{{ :battery_compatibility:full-system.png?800 |}} 
 + 
 +===== Product compatibility =====
  
-^Device ^Control type ^Connection ^ +MG is the only battery system provider that has VE.CAN implemented in the Master BMSThis has the advantage to directly control VE.CAN equipment on this communication Bus like VE.CAN MPPT’s and skylla-I’s.  
-|MultiPlus 500VA - 1200VA |DVCC |VE.BUS to GX product| +Another advantage is that the VE.CAN can be connected to the existing NMEA2000 CAN-Bus networksThe default selected mode for the VE.CAN on the GX products (Cerbo GX, Octo GX, Venus GX and CANvu GX) is used.
-|MultiPlus 800VA - 5kVA | DVCC |VE.BUS to GX product| +
-|MultiPlus-II 3 kVA and 5 kVA |DVCC |VE.BUS to GX product| +
-|MultiGrid 3kVA |DVCC |VE.BUS to GX product| +
-|Quattro – complete range |DVCC |VE.BUS to GX product| +
-|EasySolar – complete range |DVCC |VE.BUS to GX product| +
-|Phoenix inverter – all with VE.Bus |DVCC |VE.BUS to GX product| +
-|Skylla-I and Skylla-IP44[1] |Current control |VE.CAN directly| +
-|Skylla-TG |Allow-to-charge contact |Remote on/off (inverted)| +
-|Phoenix Smart IP43 Charger |Allow-to-charge contact |Remote on/off (inverted)| +
-| |DVCC |VE.Direct to GX product| +
-|SmartSolar MPPT 75/10, 75/15, 100/15 & 100/20 |DVCC |VE.Direct to GX product| +
-|SmartSolar MPPT 100/30 & 100/50 |Allow-to-charge contact |Remote on/off VE.Direct [2]| +
-| |DVCC |VE.Direct to GX product| +
-|SmartSolar MPPT 150/35 |Allow-to-charge contact |Remote on/off| +
-| |DVCC |VE.Direct to GX product| +
-|SmartSolar MPPT 150/45 to 150/100 |Allow-to-charge contact |Remote on/off input| +
-| |DVCC |VE.Direct to GX product| +
-|SmartSolar MPPT 250/60 to 250/100 |Allow-to-charge contact |Remote on/off input| +
-| |DVCC |VE.Direct to GX product| +
-|BlueSolar MPPT 75/1075/15 & 100/15 |Allow-to-charge contact |Remote on/off VE.Direct [2]| +
-| |DVCC |VE.Direct to GX product| +
-|BlueSolar MPPT 100/30 & 100/50 |Allow-to-charge contact |Remote on/off VE.Direct [2]| +
-| |DVCC |VE.Direct to GX product| +
-|BlueSolar MPPT 150/35 to 150/100 |Allow-to-charge contact |Remote on/off VE.Direct [2]| +
-| |DVCC |VE.Direct to GX product| +
-|BlueSolar MPPT 150/70 & 150/85 |Current control |VE.CAN directly|+
  
-  - Current control requires to set the correct voltage in the charger before use. +==== How to Set-up MG Victron Systems ====
-  - Requires VE.Direct remote on-off cable non-inverting+
  
-===== Firmware =====+When installing an MG Victron system you can use the following link for all information:
  
-To have the best functionality it is recommended to update all firmware of the devices used in a system to the latest release version. +[[https://docs.mgenergysystems.eu/en/installation-guides/mg-victron-energy]]
-The firmware of the MG Master LV (Lynx BMS) can be update by CAN-Bus locally with the “Diagnostic Tool” (Lynx BMS Tool) or by a GX product remotely on the VRM portal. +
-Updating the Master LV (Lynx BMS) will also update the battery module connected to it automatically if necessary. This will have the advantage that the battery modules are always compatible with the connected Master LV.+
  
-===== System setup examples ===== +For further support information you can contact[[support@mgenergysystems.eu]]
-==== Basic 1 phase setup ==== +
-{{ :battery_compatibility:mg-victron-ess-small-2.png?direct |}}+
  
-==== Basic 3 phase setup ==== 
-{{ :battery_compatibility:mg-victron-offgrid-solar-fronius-ac.png?direct |}} 
  
-==== Redundant system setup ==== 
-Below an example of a 600 kWh redundant battery system setup with solar connected to the DC. 
  
-{{ :battery_compatibility:600kwh-system-example.png?direct |}}+===== System Set-up Examples =====
  
-=== The GX products redundant/combined battery support === +Find multiple system Set-up examples in different sizes through the following link:
-Different Master LV’s in one system can be combined in the GX products to see it as one battery.+
  
-{{ :battery_compatibility:ccgx-screen-combines-1.png?nolink&400 |}}+[[https://downloads.mgenergysystems.eu/single-line-diagrams/schematics  
 +]]
  
-The combiner can be enabled in the System Setup menu. The Master LV’s (Lynx Ion BMS) which need to be combined can be selected. The new combined battery can be given a new device instance. This will make it also available and can be easily identified on the VRM portal. 
  
-{{ :battery_compatibility:ccgx-screen-combines-2.png?nolink&400 |}} 
  
-The new combined battery will be created in the device list and can be selected as the battery monitor to have parameter control by DVCC. If one the Master LV’s (Lynx BMS) fails, the system will stay active and keeps operating. 
  
-{{ :battery_compatibility:ccgx-screen-combines-3.png?nolink&400 |}} 
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