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--- battery_compatibility:discover [2019-10-18 21:41] – bsauer
+++ battery_compatibility:discover [2022-09-20 10:52] (current) – mvader
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 ====== Victron Energy and Discover AES Batteries ======
+{{:battery_compatibility:discover_aes_battery_with_lynk_communication_gateway_web_72_ppi.png?400|}}
 The Discover AES range of Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries is compatible with Victron products in various systems.
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 These instructions are intended to be used in conjunction with the product manual(s) supplied by Discover Battery.
-These instructions are current as of 2019-07-23. More recent updates to Victron device firmware or Discover Battery, LYNK or Edge Card device firmware may alter set up instructions.
 For the latest product details, installation and operation manuals, visit the Discover Battery website [[https://discoverbattery.com]] >> Solutions >> Solar >> Resources or use this direct link [[https://solar.discoverbattery.com/aes-lifepo4-batteries-renewable-energy/]]
-**1. Introduction**
+===== 1. Introduction =====
 The Discover AES LiFePO4 Battery includes a Battery Management System (BMS) within each battery pack. The BMS interfaces with the Victron GX device and can support multiple batteries connected in parallel.
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 These instructions provide information about the integration of Discover AES Lithium batteries with Victron Energy devices in a Closed Loop configuration using the AES LYNK Communication Gateway with installed AES LYNK Edge Card for Victron. AES batteries can be use in an Energy Storage System (ESS) for self consumption, Grid backup and Off-grid applications. These instructions apply to an off-grid application.
-**NOTE:** In a Victron networked system the charging variables will be managed automatically by the AES battery BMS and the Venus GX / Color Control GX device. Discharging variables are managed by the set up of the Victron inverter.
+**NOTE:** In a Victron networked system the charging variables will be managed automatically by the AES battery BMS and the GX device. Discharging variables are managed by the set up of the Victron inverter.
+===== 2. Documentation =====
-**2. Documentation**
 Victron Energy Reference Documents:
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   * MultiPlus Inverter Charge Manual
   * SmartSolar / BlueSolar Charge Controller Manual
-  * Venus GX (VGX) / Color Control GX (CCGX) Manual
+  * GX device (Cerbo GX) Manual
 Discover Reference Documents:
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 **Failure to follow these instructions can damage equipment**
-**3. Overview**
+===== 3. Overview =====
+==== 3.1 System Overview ====
-**3.1 System Overview**
 The AES LYNK Communication Gateway unlocks the full potential of a Discover AES LiFePO4 Battery by enabling the internal Battery Management System (BMS) to optimize the charge and discharge configurations of the world’s best inverter chargers and solar charge controller systems in a closed loop configuration.
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 To connect with the communication network of a specific brand of inverter charger or solar charge controller, the LYNK Communication Gateway requires an AES LYNK Edge Card with the appropriate communication port.
-**3.2 Minimum Battery Capacity**
+==== 3.2 Minimum Battery Capacity ====
-Battery charge and discharge rates are managed automatically by the AES LiFePO4 Battery and Victron CCGX device. Using very large solar arrays with battery banks that are too small can exceed the operating limits of the battery to charge and possibly lead to the BMS triggering over-current protection. Battery capacity must be sized to accept the maximum charge current of the system, or the the charging devices must be curtailed to charge below the operating limit of the installed batteries. This value is derived by adding together the charge capacities of all inverter/chargers and solar charge controllers in the system. Additionally, battery peak capacity must be sized to support the surge requirements demanded by the load attached to the inverter. Match the sum of all inverter peak power values with the sum of all battery peak battery current values.
+Battery charge and discharge rates are managed automatically by the AES LiFePO4 Battery and Victron GX device (Cerbo GX). Using very large solar arrays with battery banks that are too small can exceed the operating limits of the battery to charge and possibly lead to the BMS triggering over-current protection. Battery capacity must be sized to accept the maximum charge current of the system, or the the charging devices must be curtailed to charge below the operating limit of the installed batteries. This value is derived by adding together the charge capacities of all inverter/chargers and solar charge controllers in the system. Additionally, battery peak capacity must be sized to support the surge requirements demanded by the load attached to the inverter. Match the sum of all inverter peak power values with the sum of all battery peak battery current values.
 ^ Model^ Inverter Peak* ^ Charger ^ 1-Phase Min 42-48-6650 ^ 3-Phase Min 42-48-6650 ^
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 *92% Efficiency at 24V
-**4 Configuring Victron Products**
+===== 4 Configuring Victron Products =====
-**4.1 VE.Configure Settings**
-You will need the latest firmware on all connected devices. This section presumes familiarity with VEConfigure software. These settings are for an off-grid application. These parameters once set will become the default values used if communication with the AES battery is interrupted for some reason. During normal operation the charge characteristics are governed automatically by the CCGX via DVCC, with instructions from the connected AES battery. However it is necessary to set the discharging parameters for DC input low shut-down found under the Inverter Tab. After setting the parameters, ‘send’ all parameters to the inverter and CCGX. Restart the CCGX after completion.
+==== 4.1 Powering Up Equipment ====
+  * Make sure none of the Discover AES communication cables are installed.
+  * Connect MultiPlus/Quattro, GX device, MPPT etc to the batteries  in a safe way in accordance with the local electrical requirements/code.
+  * Connect all Victron communication cables at this time.
+  * Turn ON the Discover AES Battery press and hold switch on the battery/batteries for 2-3 seconds.
+  * Turn on Multi/Quattro
+ If this is the initial set up of the MultiPlus or Quattro apply power to Victron Equipment and update firmware to the devices listed to:
+  * MultiPlus / Quattro - version 459 or later.
+  * GX device (Cerbo GX, Venus GX, etc) to include version 2.40 or later.
+  * VE.Direct MPPT - version 1.42 or later.
+This will also presume the VE Bus has already set up if required, such as:
+  * Dual Phase/Split Phase 180 degrees out
+  * 3 Phase
+==== 4.2 VE.Configure Settings ====
+This section presumes familiarity with VEConfigure software. These settings are for an off-grid application. These parameters once set will become the default values used if communication with the AES battery is interrupted for some reason. During normal operation the charge characteristics are governed automatically by the GX device via DVCC, with instructions from the connected AES battery. However it is necessary to set the discharging parameters for DC input low shut-down found under the Inverter Tab. After setting the parameters, ‘send’ all parameters to the inverter and GX device. Restart the GX device after completion.
+Also keep in mind the settings below are for 1 unit only. If the system is a multiple inverter/charger configuration, determine the max charge current for all units installed does not exceed the Discover battery charge current limit .
 ^ General Tab ^44-24-2800 ^42-48-6650^
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 **NOTE:** Confirm the Float Voltage after completing the installation of any Victron ‘Assistants’, and if necessary reset the Float Voltage back to 26.8 V / 53.6 V.
-**4.2 VE.Direct MPPT Settings**
+==== 4.3 VE.Direct MPPT Settings ====
-During normal operation the MPPT charge characteristics are governed by the CCGX via DVCC, with instructions from the connected AES battery.
+During normal operation the MPPT charge characteristics are governed by the GX device via DVCC, with instructions from the connected AES battery.
 The settings below are precautionary. This section presumes familiarity with VictronConnect (Bluetooth App) used to configure, monitor and diagnose Victron MPPT products which feature Blue-tooth, or are equipped with a VE.Direct Port.
+**NOTE:** VE.Can MPPTs cannot be used and are not yet supported
+The max charge current is dictated by the size of MPPTs installed. If multiple MPPTs are installed verify all combined controllers would not exceed the battery limit.
 ^MPPT Charge Controller Settings ^44-24-2800 ^42-48-6650^
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 period of time may be required to compensate for multiple batteries to achieve a smooth completion of charge.
-**5. Installing LYNK and Connecting LYNK to the Victron Network**
+Turn OFF all Victron equipment. Turn OFF the Discover AES Battery press and hold switch on the battery/batteries for 2-3 seconds
+===== 5. Installing LYNK and Connecting LYNK to the Victron Network =====
-**5.1 Installing the LYNK Edge Card**
+==== 5.1 Installing the LYNK Edge Card ====
 The LYNK Edge Card for Victron is a Slot 0 Type which only inserts into the left side slot on the bottom of the LYNK Communication Gateway.
+{{:battery_compatibility:discover_lynk_slot.png |}}
 **NOTE:** The LYNK Edge Card type to be used is determine by the brand of power conversion equipment.
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   * If LYNK Edge Card is not firmly seated, it will not function.
-**5.2 Connecting LYNK to the AES Battery**
+Choose a clean, dry, easily accessible indoor location. All the communication ports on the LYNK are accessible from the bottom of the device when mounted on a wall or DIN rail. Clearance of at least 50 mm (2 inches) below the device is needed to allow for the bend radius of cables connected to LYNK.
+With LYNK disconnected from all devices remove cover and insert the LYNK Edge Card in the correct slot. This card has a RJ45 terminal built into the card. Ensure it is firmly seated into the internal connecting slot. Replace with provided slotted Edge Card cover after mounting LYNK Edge Card.
 Install and network the AES LiFePO4 batteries as described in the 805-0015 AES LiFePO4 Battery Manual. Connect the AES LYNK Communication Gateway to the AES LIFePO4 Battery and power up as described in the 805-0017 LYNK Communication Gateway Users Manual.
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 to AEBus.
-**5.3 Connecting LYNK to the Victron Network**
+==== 5.2 Connecting LYNK to the Victron Network ====
 Before connecting LYNK to the Victron Network ensure that the firmware for all Victron devices is up to date.
-  * MultiPlus / Quattro - version 459 or later.
-  * CCGX / Venus GX - version 2.32 or later.
-  * VE.Direct MPPT - version 1.42 or later.
-**NOTE:** VE.Can MPPTs cannot be used and are not yet supported
+Insert one end of a CAT5 communication cable into the LYNK Edge Card port and the other end into one of the two VE.Can ports on the back of the GX device (Cerbo GX). Use the terminator provided with the GX device to terminate the network by plugging it into the second VE.Can port. See diagram below.
-Insert one end of a CAT5 communication cable into the LYNK Edge Card port and the other end into one of the two VE.Can ports on the back of the Color Control GX (CCGX). Use the terminator provided with the CCGX to terminate the network by plugging it into the second VE.Can port.
+{{ :battery_compatibility:discover_comm_1.1.png |}}
-Using the CCGX navigate from the Device List > Settings > Services > Can-bus Profile and select VE.Can & CAN-bus BMS (250 kbit/s).
+**NOTE:** Discover DC Power Converter and Lynk Gateway are internally terminated
-Return to the Device List and the CCGX should display Discover AES as one of the devices along with the battery SoC, Voltage and Amps. If you have multiple batteries a single entry will show up, which represents all batteries.
+===== 6. System Set Up =====
+==== 6.1 Synchronizing the Victron System with the AES Battery ====
+  * Turn the Discover AES battery to ON press and hold switch on the battery/batteries for 2-3 seconds.
+  * Turn on all Victron equipment.
+Through the VRM or a physical GX device access the System Setup menu in the Remote Console. Scroll down to select each item and then set as indicated.
+ ;#;
+ * **Select “CAN-bus (1)”**
+;#;
+{{ :battery_compatibility:disover_comm_services_setup_1.png |}}
+;#;
+*** Select “CAN-bus Profile” to edit**
+;#;
+{{ :battery_compatibility:disover_comm_services_setup_2.png |}}
+**
+  **;#;
+*** Within the “CAN-bus Profile” choose “VE CAN & CAN-bus”**
+;#;
+****
+{{ :battery_compatibility:disover_comm_services_setup_3.png |}}
+;#;
+ ** * “VE CAN-bus & CAN-bus BMS (250 kbit/s)” should appear on the “CAN-bus(1) menu**
+;#;
+{{ :battery_compatibility:disover_comm_services_setup_4.png |}}
+Return to the Device List and the GX device should display Discover AES as one of the devices along with the battery SoC, Voltage and Amps. If you have multiple batteries a single entry will show up, which represents all batteries.
 **NOTE:** If Discover does not appear on the Device List, confirm that the CAT5 communication cable is a normal patch type and not a cross over type. Use manufactured cables to avoid bad crimps and reduce the risk of a poor
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 **NOTE:** Battery Low Voltage value displayed is the BMS value, the actual discharge voltage limit is governed by the DC input low shut-down setting.
-**6. System Set Up**
-**6.1 Synchronizing the Victron System with the AES Battery**
 Once the VE.Can and CAN-bus bit rate is set, communication of the AES battery parameters will be automatic.
-During normal operation, the charge parameter limits are set by the BMS of the AES battery and communicated through the system by the CCGX to the inverter/charger and MPPT.
+During normal operation, the charge parameter limits are set by the BMS of the AES battery and communicated through the system by the GX device to the inverter/charger and MPPT.
-To optimize performance of a Victron system the following items need to be manually set using the CCGX.
+Navigate from the Device List screen > Settings > System Setup>DVCC
+From the System Setup menu scroll down to select each item and verify the system automatically updated in the DVCC. Note this was accomplished by the v2.40 Venus OS firmware upgrade to include.
-Navigate from the Device List screen > Settings > System Setup.
+  * DVCC - Distributed Voltage and Current Control is forced “ON”
-From the System Setup menu scroll down to select each item and then set as indicated.
+Within the DVCC menu verify:
-  * Battery Monitor: DISCOVER on CAN-bus
+  * Limit Charge Current is “ON” **Note** If off-grid or have a generator you might want to turn “ON”
-  * DVCC - Distributed Voltage and Current Control: ON
-  * SVS - Shared voltage sense: OFF (7)
-  * STS - Shared temperature sense: OFF
-  * Limit charge current: ON
   * Max charge current: Installed number of AES batteries x (42-48-6650: 92A < 130A) or (44-24-2800: 78 A < 110 A (8)
+  * SVS - Shared voltage sense: Forced “OFF”
-(7) SVS should be set to OFF (there have been instances of conflict reported by Victron Support when SVS is set to ON and used with a Lithium BMS).
+  * STS - Shared temperature sense: Forced “OFF”
+  * SCS - Shared Current Sense: 'On"
+  * SCS Status - Should show "Disabled (External Control)
 (8) Limit charge current works across the whole system. MPPTs are automatically prioritized over the mains. In case the AES BMS requests a maximum charge current that is different from the user-configurable setting, the lower of the two will be used.
 **NOTE:** To avoid conflicting network information and data, do not use a Victron BMV battery monitor when using AES LYNK Communication Gateway.
+ ** ;#;
+* Reboot the GX device after completion of all steps
+;#;
+**
+{{ :battery_compatibility:gx_reboot.png |}}