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 The Discover AES range of Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries is compatible with Victron products in various systems. The Discover AES range of Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries is compatible with Victron products in various systems.
- 
-For product details, installation and operation manuals, visit the Discover Battery website [[www.discoverbattery.com]] >> Solutions >> Solar >> Resources or use this direct link [[https://solar.discoverbattery.com/aes-lifepo4-batteries-renewable-energy/]]  
  
 These instructions are intended to be used in conjunction with the product manual(s) supplied by Discover Battery.   These instructions are intended to be used in conjunction with the product manual(s) supplied by Discover Battery.  
  
-1. Introduction+These instructions are current as of 2019-07-23. More recent updates to Victron device firmware or Discover Battery, LYNK or Edge Card device firmware may alter set up instructions.  
 + 
 +For the latest product details, installation and operation manuals, visit the Discover Battery website [[https://discoverbattery.com]] >> Solutions >> Solar >> Resources or use this direct link [[https://solar.discoverbattery.com/aes-lifepo4-batteries-renewable-energy/]]  
 + 
 +**1. Introduction**
  
-The Discover AES LiFePO4 Battery includes a Battery Management System (BMS) within each battery pack. This interfaces with the Victron GX device and can support multiple batteries connected in parallel.+The Discover AES LiFePO4 Battery includes a Battery Management System (BMS) within each battery pack. The BMS interfaces with the Victron GX device and can support multiple batteries connected in parallel.
  
-These instructions provide information about the integration of Discover AES Lithium batteries with Victron Energy devices in a Closed Loop configuration using the AES LYNK Communication Gateway with installed AES LYNK Edge +These instructions provide information about the integration of Discover AES Lithium batteries with Victron Energy devices in a Closed Loop configuration using the AES LYNK Communication Gateway with installed AES LYNK Edge Card for Victron. AES batteries can be use in an Energy Storage System (ESS) for self consumption, Grid backup and Off-grid applications. These instructions apply to an off-grid application.
-Card for Victron. AES battery can be use in Energy Storage System (ESS) for self consumption, Grid backup and Off-grid applications. These instructions apply to an off-grid application.+
  
-Note that in a Victron networked system the charging variables will be managed automatically by the AES battery BMS and the Venus GX / Color Control GX device. Discharging variables are managed by the set up of the Victron inverter.+**NOTE:** In a Victron networked system the charging variables will be managed automatically by the AES battery BMS and the Venus GX / Color Control GX device. Discharging variables are managed by the set up of the Victron inverter.
  
-2. Documentation+**2. Documentation**
  
 Victron Energy Reference Documents: Victron Energy Reference Documents:
   * Quattro Inverter Charge Manual   * Quattro Inverter Charge Manual
-  * MultiPlusInverter Charge Manual+  * MultiPlus Inverter Charge Manual
   * SmartSolar / BlueSolar Charge Controller Manual   * SmartSolar / BlueSolar Charge Controller Manual
   * Venus GX (VGX) / Color Control GX (CCGX) Manual    * Venus GX (VGX) / Color Control GX (CCGX) Manual 
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   * Discover Energy 805-0020 LYNK Edge Card Victron User Manual   * Discover Energy 805-0020 LYNK Edge Card Victron User Manual
  
-3. Overview +Certain configuration, installations, service, and operating tasks should only be performed by qualified personnel in consultation with local utilities and/or authorized dealers. Qualified personnel should have training, knowledge, and experience in: 
-3.1 System Overview+  * Installing electrical equipment 
 +  * Applying applicable installation codes 
 +  * Analyzing and reducing hazards involved in performing electrical work 
 +  * Installing and configuring batteries 
 + 
 +**//No responsibility is assumed by Discover for any consequences arising out of the use of this material. 
 +Read AES Battery Manual and Safety instructions before installing the battery. 
 +Read Victron manuals for guidance on product features, functions, parameters and how to use the product safely.//** 
 + 
 +**WARNING: HAZARD OF ELECTRICAL SHOCK AND FIRE** 
 +  * Connect LYNK to only Safety Extra Low Voltage (SELV) circuits and power sources. 
 +  * All wiring must be completed by qualified personnel to ensure compliance with applicable installation codes and regulations. 
 +**Failure to follow these instructions can result in death or serious injury.** 
 + 
 +**CAUTION: HAZARD OF EQUIPMENT DAMAGE** 
 +  * Do not install LYNK outdoors. 
 +  * Do not connect any port of the LYNK to a network with power over Ethernet (POE) or to a public telecommunication network. 
 +  * Do not run CAT5 cables or other cables connected to LYNK through conduit that could be exposed to lightning strikes.  
 +**Failure to follow these instructions can damage equipment** 
 + 
 +**3. Overview** 
 + 
 +**3.1 System Overview** 
 The AES LYNK Communication Gateway unlocks the full potential of a Discover AES LiFePO4 Battery by enabling the internal Battery Management System (BMS) to optimize the charge and discharge configurations of the world’s best inverter chargers and solar charge controller systems in a closed loop configuration. The AES LYNK Communication Gateway unlocks the full potential of a Discover AES LiFePO4 Battery by enabling the internal Battery Management System (BMS) to optimize the charge and discharge configurations of the world’s best inverter chargers and solar charge controller systems in a closed loop configuration.
  
-AES LiFePO4 batteries must be set up to work with Power Conversion and Monitoring devices in either an Open Loop or Closed Loop configuration. +**AES LiFePO4 batteries must be set up to work with Power Conversion and Monitoring devices in either an Open Loop or Closed Loop configuration.** 
  
 AES LiFePO4 battery charge and discharge settings in a Open Loop configuration are set up manually through the controller for the Power Conversion device at the time of installation. This is commonly referred to as a ‘lead acid drop-in replacement’ configuration. For information on Open Loop set up with Victron devices please visit the Discover Battery web site [[www.discoverbattery.com]] >> Solutions >> Solar >> Resources >> Application Note >>> Discover-AES-Lithium-Open-Loop-Integration-Victron-Energy.  AES LiFePO4 battery charge and discharge settings in a Open Loop configuration are set up manually through the controller for the Power Conversion device at the time of installation. This is commonly referred to as a ‘lead acid drop-in replacement’ configuration. For information on Open Loop set up with Victron devices please visit the Discover Battery web site [[www.discoverbattery.com]] >> Solutions >> Solar >> Resources >> Application Note >>> Discover-AES-Lithium-Open-Loop-Integration-Victron-Energy. 
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 To connect with the communication network of a specific brand of inverter charger or solar charge controller, the LYNK Communication Gateway requires an AES LYNK Edge Card with the appropriate communication port. To connect with the communication network of a specific brand of inverter charger or solar charge controller, the LYNK Communication Gateway requires an AES LYNK Edge Card with the appropriate communication port.
  
-3.2 Minimum Battery Capacity +**3.2 Minimum Battery Capacity** 
-Battery charge and discharge rates are managed automatically by the AES LiFePO4 Battery and Victron CCGX device. Using very large solar arrays with battery banks that are too small can exceed the operating limits of the battery to charge and possibly lead to the BMS triggering over-current protection. Battery capacity must be sized to accept the maximum charge + 
-current of the system, or the the charging devices must be curtailed to charge below the operating limit of the installed batteries. This value is derived by adding together the charge capacities of all inverter/chargers and solar charge controllers in the system. Additionally, battery peak capacity must be sized to support the surge requirements demanded by the load attached to the inverter. Match the sum of all inverter peak power values with the sum of all battery peak battery current values.+Battery charge and discharge rates are managed automatically by the AES LiFePO4 Battery and Victron CCGX device. Using very large solar arrays with battery banks that are too small can exceed the operating limits of the battery to charge and possibly lead to the BMS triggering over-current protection. Battery capacity must be sized to accept the maximum charge current of the system, or the the charging devices must be curtailed to charge below the operating limit of the installed batteries. This value is derived by adding together the charge capacities of all inverter/chargers and solar charge controllers in the system. Additionally, battery peak capacity must be sized to support the surge requirements demanded by the load attached to the inverter. Match the sum of all inverter peak power values with the sum of all battery peak battery current values.
  
 ^ Model^ Inverter Peak* ^ Charger ^ 1-Phase Min 42-48-6650 ^ 3-Phase Min 42-48-6650 ^ ^ Model^ Inverter Peak* ^ Charger ^ 1-Phase Min 42-48-6650 ^ 3-Phase Min 42-48-6650 ^
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 *92% Efficiency at 24V *92% Efficiency at 24V
  
-4 Configuring Victron Products +**4 Configuring Victron Products** 
-4.1 VE.Configure Settings+  
 +**4.1 VE.Configure Settings** 
 You will need the latest firmware on all connected devices. This section presumes familiarity with VEConfigure software. These settings are for an off-grid application. These parameters once set will become the default values used if communication with the AES battery is interrupted for some reason. During normal operation the charge characteristics are governed automatically by the CCGX via DVCC, with instructions from the connected AES battery. However it is necessary to set the discharging parameters for DC input low shut-down found under the Inverter Tab. After setting the parameters, ‘send’ all parameters to the inverter and CCGX. Restart the CCGX after completion. You will need the latest firmware on all connected devices. This section presumes familiarity with VEConfigure software. These settings are for an off-grid application. These parameters once set will become the default values used if communication with the AES battery is interrupted for some reason. During normal operation the charge characteristics are governed automatically by the CCGX via DVCC, with instructions from the connected AES battery. However it is necessary to set the discharging parameters for DC input low shut-down found under the Inverter Tab. After setting the parameters, ‘send’ all parameters to the inverter and CCGX. Restart the CCGX after completion.
  
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 (7) The recommended minimum is 1.0 hour. A longer period of time may be required to compensate for multiple batteries to achieve a smooth completion of charge. (7) The recommended minimum is 1.0 hour. A longer period of time may be required to compensate for multiple batteries to achieve a smooth completion of charge.
  
-NOTE: Confirm the Float Voltage after completing the installation of any Victron ‘Assistants’, and if necessary reset the Float Voltage back to 26.8 V / 53.6 V.+**NOTE:** Confirm the Float Voltage after completing the installation of any Victron ‘Assistants’, and if necessary reset the Float Voltage back to 26.8 V / 53.6 V. 
 + 
 +**4.2 VE.Direct MPPT Settings**
  
-4.2 VE.Direct MPPT Settings 
 During normal operation the MPPT charge characteristics are governed by the CCGX via DVCC, with instructions from the connected AES battery. During normal operation the MPPT charge characteristics are governed by the CCGX via DVCC, with instructions from the connected AES battery.
 The settings below are precautionary. This section presumes familiarity with VictronConnect (Bluetooth App) used to configure, monitor and diagnose Victron MPPT products which feature Blue-tooth, or are equipped with a VE.Direct Port. The settings below are precautionary. This section presumes familiarity with VictronConnect (Bluetooth App) used to configure, monitor and diagnose Victron MPPT products which feature Blue-tooth, or are equipped with a VE.Direct Port.
  
 ^MPPT Charge Controller Settings ^44-24-2800 ^42-48-6650^ ^MPPT Charge Controller Settings ^44-24-2800 ^42-48-6650^
-^Battery voltage| 24 V|  48 V|  +^Battery voltage|24 V|48 V|  
-^Max current per battery installed (Recommended < Maximum) (9)| installed x (78 A < 110 A)| installed x (92 A < 130 A)|  +^Max current per battery installed (Recommended < Maximum) (9)|installed x (78 A < 110 A)|installed x (92 A < 130 A)|  
-^Charger enabled|  Enabled|  Enabled|  +^Charger enabled|Enabled|Enabled|  
-^Battery preset | User Defined | User Defined|  +^Battery preset |User Defined|User Defined|  
-^Absorption voltage | 27.2 V | 54.8 V|  +^Absorption voltage |27.2 V|54.8 V|  
-^Maximum absorption time (10)v 1.0 < 3.0 Hr|  1.0 < 3.0 Hr|  +^Maximum absorption time (10)|v 1.0 < 3.0 Hr|1.0 < 3.0 Hr|  
-^Float voltage|  26.8 V | 54.0 V|  +^Float voltage|26.8 V|54.0 V|  
-^Equalization voltage|  26.8 V | 54.0 V|  +^Equalization voltage|26.8 V|54.0 V|  
-^Auto equalization|  Disabled | Disabled|  +^Auto equalization|Disabled|Disabled|  
-^Temperature compensation | Disabled | Disabled|  +^Temperature compensation |Disabled |Disabled|  
-^Low temperature cut off | 5 C | 5 C| +^Low temperature cut off |5 C|5 C| 
 (9) May be set to lower value if necessitated by charger controller size. (9) May be set to lower value if necessitated by charger controller size.
 (10) Duration of absorption period after the bulk charge interval. The recommended minimum is 1.0 hour. A longer (10) Duration of absorption period after the bulk charge interval. The recommended minimum is 1.0 hour. A longer
 period of time may be required to compensate for multiple batteries to achieve a smooth completion of charge. period of time may be required to compensate for multiple batteries to achieve a smooth completion of charge.
 +
 +**5. Installing LYNK and Connecting LYNK to the Victron Network**
 +
 +**5.1 Installing the LYNK Edge Card**
 +
 +The LYNK Edge Card for Victron is a Slot 0 Type which only inserts into the left side slot on the bottom of the LYNK Communication Gateway.
 +
 +**NOTE:** The LYNK Edge Card type to be used is determine by the brand of power conversion equipment.
 +  * If LYNK Edge Card is in the wrong slot, it will not function.
 +  * If LYNK Edge Card is not firmly seated, it will not function.
 +
 +**5.2 Connecting LYNK to the AES Battery**
 +
 +Install and network the AES LiFePO4 batteries as described in the 805-0015 AES LiFePO4 Battery Manual. Connect the AES LYNK Communication Gateway to the AES LIFePO4 Battery and power up as described in the 805-0017 LYNK Communication Gateway Users Manual.
 +
 +**CAUTION: HAZARD OF EQUIPMENT DAMAGE**
 +  * Do not plug the AEBus RJ-45 cable terminator into the 10/100 Ethernet port of the LYNK. 
 +  * Do not connect a CAT5 cable from the 10/100 Ethernet port of the LYNK to the WAN or MODEM port of a network router.
 +  * Turn OFF all devices before connecting cables or inserting an Edge Card. 
 +**Failure to follow these instructions can damage equipment.**
 +
 +**NOTE:** Power electronics are not AEBus devices and should not be connected
 +to AEBus.
 +
 +**5.3 Connecting LYNK to the Victron Network**
 +
 +Before connecting LYNK to the Victron Network ensure that the firmware for all Victron devices is up to date.
 +  * MultiPlus / Quattro - version 459 or later. 
 +  * CCGX / Venus GX - version 2.32 or later.
 +  * VE.Direct MPPT - version 1.42 or later.
 +
 +**NOTE:** VE.Can MPPTs cannot be used and are not yet supported
 +
 +Insert one end of a CAT5 communication cable into the LYNK Edge Card port and the other end into one of the two VE.Can ports on the back of the Color Control GX (CCGX). Use the terminator provided with the CCGX to terminate the network by plugging it into the second VE.Can port.
 +
 +Using the CCGX navigate from the Device List > Settings > Services > Can-bus Profile and select VE.Can & CAN-bus BMS (250 kbit/s).
 +
 +Return to the Device List and the CCGX should display Discover AES as one of the devices along with the battery SoC, Voltage and Amps. If you have multiple batteries a single entry will show up, which represents all batteries.
 +
 +**NOTE:** If Discover does not appear on the Device List, confirm that the CAT5 communication cable is a normal patch type and not a cross over type. Use manufactured cables to avoid bad crimps and reduce the risk of a poor
 +connection.
 +
 +The parameters option within the battery page shows the actual battery charge limits. If you have multiple batteries a single entry will show up, which represents all batteries.
 +
 +**NOTE:** Battery Low Voltage value displayed is the BMS value, the actual discharge voltage limit is governed by the DC input low shut-down setting.
 +
 +**6. System Set Up**
 +
 +**6.1 Synchronizing the Victron System with the AES Battery**
 +
 +Once the VE.Can and CAN-bus bit rate is set, communication of the AES battery parameters will be automatic.
 +
 +During normal operation, the charge parameter limits are set by the BMS of the AES battery and communicated through the system by the CCGX to the inverter/charger and MPPT.
 +
 +To optimize performance of a Victron system the following items need to be manually set using the CCGX.
 +
 +Navigate from the Device List screen > Settings > System Setup.
 +
 +From the System Setup menu scroll down to select each item and then set as indicated.
 +  * Battery Monitor: DISCOVER on CAN-bus
 +  * DVCC - Distributed Voltage and Current Control: ON
 +  * SVS - Shared voltage sense: OFF (7)
 +  * STS - Shared temperature sense: OFF
 +  * Limit charge current: ON
 +  * Max charge current: Installed number of AES batteries x (42-48-6650: 92A < 130A) or (44-24-2800: 78 A < 110 A (8)
 +
 +(7) SVS should be set to OFF (there have been instances of conflict reported by Victron Support when SVS is set to ON and used with a Lithium BMS).
 +(8) Limit charge current works across the whole system. MPPTs are automatically prioritized over the mains. In case the AES BMS requests a maximum charge current that is different from the user-configurable setting, the lower of the two will be used.
 +
 +**NOTE:** To avoid conflicting network information and data, do not use a Victron BMV battery monitor when using AES LYNK Communication Gateway.
 +
  
battery_compatibility/discover.txt · Last modified: 2022-09-20 10:52 by mvader

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