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-Victron Energy and BlueNova LiFePo4 Batteries
+====== Victron Energy and BlueNova Energy LiFePo4 Batteries ======
-The BlueNova (www.bluenova.co.za) range of Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries is compatible with Victron products in various systems.
-.1	Product and System Compatibility
+The BlueNova Energy (www.bluenova.co.za) range of Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries is compatible with Victron products in various systems.
-Victron + BlueNova can be used for the following systems
+=== 1.1 Product and System Compatibility ===
-•	Off Grid
-•	Backup
-•	Energy Storage
-.2	Colour Control GX is required
+Victron + BlueNova Energy can be used for the following systems
-When used with BlueNova Batteries the minimum firmware version for the Colour Control is v2.02. It is recommended to always use the latest Firmware version for the Colour Control.
+.Oﬀ Grid
-.3 All 48V Multi’s, MultiPlus, Multigrids and Quattros are compatible
+.Backup
-When the BlueNova battery is installed in a Victron ESS installation, which is the best solution for Energy Storage Systems, there is no need for additional control wiring.
+.Energy Storage
-For other systems, such as off-grid systems and backup systems, the internal BMS controls will control deep discharge and overcharge conditions. Please contact BlueNova for more information
-For more Victron-related settings see the VEConfigure section below
-.4 48V BlueSolar MPPT Chargers are compatible
+=== 1.2 GX device is required ===
-The Orion BMS BlueNova Batteries can control the VE.Direct MPPT
+When used with BlueNova Energy Batteries the minimum firmware version for the GX device is v2.02. It is recommended to always use the latest Firmware version for the GX device.
-MPPTs with a VE.Direct port. These are controlled via the Color Control GX. Make sure the CCGX runs v2.02 or later, and also update the MPPTs to the latest available version.
-To test operation, try disconnecting the CCGX from the MPPT. After a time-out, the MPPT will stop charging and flash an error code on its LEDs. The error code is error #67: no BMS.
-. BlueNova product range
+=== 1.3 All 48V Multi’s, MultiPlus, MultiPlus II, Multigrids, Quattros and EasySolars are compatible ===
-The BlueNova range can be supplied with 2 different BMS.
+When the BlueNova Energy battery is installed in a Victron ESS installation, which is the best solution for Energy Storage Systems, there is no need for additional control wiring. For other systems, such as oﬀ- grid systems and backup systems, the internal BMS controls will control deep discharge and overcharge conditions. Please contact BlueNova Energy for more information. For more Victron-related settings see the VEConﬁgure section below
-.	Models with a 123 BMS
-.	Models with an Orion BMS.
-Please contact BlueNova for more information
-. Wiring of Can.Bus cable between BlueNova and CCGX.
-{{:battery_compatibility:bluenova_battery.png?400 |}}
+==== 2.BlueNova Energy product range ====
+The BlueNova Energy range is supplied with a BMS as standard on  all  current  models  of  batteries  . See the BlueNova Energy product page for more details on the various options.
+==== 3. Wiring of Can.Bus cable between BlueNova Energy and GX device. ====
+{{:battery_compatibility:bn52v-240-12.5k_hc.gif?400|}}
+No RJ45 cable is supplied for this connection .
+Plug the GX device side of the cable into one of the VE.Can sockets on the back of the GX device or "BMS Can"  . Plug the other end into the battery at one of the RJ45 CANbus ports.  A  VE.Can terminator is  not   nescessary  for  the other VE.Can socket on the GX device.( This is applicable for the BlueNova Energy "SSS" range of batteries. The RacPower( BP & DU )range of BlueNova Energy batteries need to have CANbus terminations done,  supplied as per each RacPower unit
+For BlueNova  Energy  RacPower  batteries(latest "DU" and "BP" models) with CANbus and RS485,  please contact  BlueNova  Energy  Technical Support  for  correct  interlink  comms  cable configurations,  especially   where  a  BlueNova  Energy BMAC Online  units  is  present.
+Without properly connecting this cable, the battery will stop charging/discharging after several minutes. Also, the battery will not show up on the Menu/display of the GX device.
+To  view  more  information on the RacPower  BP, see  [[http://www.bluenova.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/BN%20User%20Manual%20-%20RacPower%20BN52V-100-5.2k%20BP%20with%20CAN_v103.pdf|User Manual  here]].
-An RJ45 cable is supplied with each Bluenova battery.
+To  view  more  information on the RacPower  DU, see  [[http://www.bluenova.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/BN-UserManual_52V-5.2k%20DU%20RacPower_v104.pdf|User Manual  here]].
-Plug the CCGX side of that cable into one of the VE.Can sockets on the back of the CCGX. Plug the other end into the battery. Then, plug a VE.Can terminator in the other VE.Can socket on the CCGX. Two VE.Can terminators are included with the package of the CCGX as an accessory – only one is used. Keep the other one as a spare.
-Without properly connecting this cable, the battery will stop charging/discharging after several minutes. Also, the battery will not show up on the display of the CCGX.
-. VEConfigure settings
-.1 Charge parameters
-Parameter	         Setting
-Battery type	         Lithium
-Charge curve	         Fixed
-Absorption voltage	 56.3 V
-Float voltage	         54 V
-Absorption time	         1 Hr
-Note: make sure to double check the float voltage after completing Assistants, and if necessary set it back to 54 V.
-.2 ESS Assistant
-Select the fourth battery type:
+==== 4. VEConfigure settings ====
+=== 4.1 Charge parameters ===
+{{:battery_compatibility:battery_voltages_2022_01_14_c.png?400 |}}
+=== 4.2 ESS Assistant ===
+Select the fifth battery type:
 {{:battery_compatibility:ess-battery-system-selection.png?400|}}
-Then:
-. Dynamic cut-off values: set all values to 47V.
-. Restart offset: change to 4V
-. Color Control GX Configuration
+==== 5. GX device Configuration ====
-      	Enable the CAN-bus BMS Service in the CCGX. Menu path: Settings → Services → CAN-bus BMS. Note that this changes the function of a VE.Can port: it is not possible to connect both VE.Can products and a Bluenova battery together.
+In most cases nothing needs changing: new Blue Nova Energy batteries come with 500kbps CAN-bus speed as default; which matches the default configuration of all BMS-Can ports on the Victron GX devices. Note that the BMS-Can port is not the same as the VE.Can port.
+In case a setting does need changing, such as setting a different baud rate or configuring a VE.Can port to be used for BMS-Can instead, use the menu path //Settings -> Services -> CAN-profile//.
+Note that it is not possible with the CCGX to connect both VE.Can products (i.e VE.Can MPPTs) and a Bluenova Energy battery together. If this is required, use a Cerbo GX which has two separate sets of ports.
+All BlueNova Energy products can work with either 250kbps or 500kbps. On the older batteries this mean installing new firmware and on the new batteries this is selectable on the user interface on the battery. The default baud rate on newly delivered BlueNova Energy batteries 500kbps.
-{{:battery_compatibility:bluenova_services_ccgx_screen_shot.png?400 |}}
+{{:battery_compatibility:bluenova_services_ccgx_screen_shot_V2.png?400|}}
-{{:battery_compatibility:bluenova_can-bus_ccgx.png?400 |}}
+{{:battery_compatibility:bluenova_can-bus_ccgx_V2.png?400|}}
-      	After properly wiring and setting up, the B-Box will be visible as a battery in the device list:
+After properly wiring and setting up, the BlueNova Energy will be visible as a battery in the device list:
-{{:battery_compatibility:bluenova_system_set_up_ccgx_screen_shot.png?400 |}}
- (If you have multiple batteries, a single entry will show up, which represents all batteries).
-      	The parameters option within the battery page shows the actual battery charge and discharge limits
+{{:battery_compatibility:bluenova_system_set_up_ccgx.png?400|}}
+If you have multiple batteries, a single entry will show up, which represents all batteries.
+The parameters option within the battery page shows the actual battery charge and discharge limits.
+To be able to monitor all individual paralleled BlueNova Energy batteries in an installation,  a BlueNova Energy BMAC Online unit can be installed between the BlueNova Energy batteries and the Victron Energy GX device.
+(The BlueNova Energy BMAC Online unit can be purchased seperately from your BlueNova Energy registered installer or dealer.)
-. Configure MPPT
-      	Disable Autodetect voltage
-      	Set Battery voltage to 48V.
-It is recommended to make these settings using the VictronConnect App and Bluetooth
+==== 6. BlueNova Energy battery setup with DVCC enabled ====
+(DVCC - Distributed Voltage and Current Control)
+Introduction and features
+With the latest Victron Energy GX device firmware installed,  the DVCC function will automatically be activated once the BlueNova Energy battery is connected via the CANbus to the GX device.
+Activating the  DVCC in this way, changes the GX device from a passive monitor into an active controller.
+The GX device  receives the Charge Voltage Limit (CVL), Charge Current Limit (CCL), Discharge Current Limit (DCL) as  well  as  the  Battery  Low  Voltage   from the battery and relays that to the connected inverter/chargers and solar chargers. These then disable their internal charge algorithms and simply do what they're told by the battery. There is no need to set-up charge voltages or choose the charge algorithm type.
+{{https://www.victronenergy.com/live/_media/battery_compatibility:dvcc_bluenova_parameters_1.jpg }}
+{{https://www.victronenergy.com/live/_media/battery_compatibility:dvcc_bluenova_parameters_2.jpg}}
+Shared Voltage Sense (SVS)
+Works with VE.Bus devices and VE.Direct Solar Chargers.
+The system automatically selects the best available voltage measurement. It will use the voltage from the BlueNova Energy  battery  BMS or a BMV battery monitor, if possible, otherwise it will use the battery voltage reported by the VE.Bus system.
+The voltage displayed on the GUI reﬂects the same voltage measurement.
+**Shared Voltage Sense** (SVS) is by default enabled when DVCC is enabled. It can be disabled with a switch in the Settings → System Setup menu.
+**Limit charge current**  -
+This is a user-conﬁgurable maximum charge current setting and can, in majority of cases, be   disabled for BlueNova Energy batteries.  It works across the whole system. MPPT Solar Chargers are automatically prioritized over the mains/generator.
+To enable or disable DVCC, see Settings → System Setup in the menus.
+**DVCC Requirements :**
+Battery compatilibity  -
+DVCC has extensively been tested on BlueNova Energy batteries and is therefore fully supported .
+**Firmware versions :**
+Do not use DVCC in cases where these requirements(Victron) are not met. In all cases we recommend to install the latest available ﬁrmware during commissioning. Once running well, there is no need to pro- actively update ﬁrmware without reason. In case of diﬃculty, the ﬁrst action is to update ﬁrmware.
+**Required minimum ﬁrmware versions:**
+BlueNova Energy  123SmartBMS : v5.13
+BlueNova Energy BMMC : V3.5 +
+Multi/Quattro: 422
+MultiGrid: 424
+GX device: v2.12 VE.Direct MPPTs: v1.29
+VE.Can MPPT Solar Chargers cannot be used: they do not yet support the new control mechanisms.
+(Latest VeCan /VeDirect MPPT Solar  Chargers is  compatible...)
+Lynx Ion + Shunt: v2.04 Lynx BMS: v1.09
+In case of an ESS System, the ESS Assistant needs to be version 164 or later (Released in November 2017).
+==== 7.  Recommended Maximum Charge / Discharge Values ====
+{{:battery_compatibility:charge-discharge.png?400|}}
+==== 8. Configure MPPT ====
+  - Disable Autodetect voltage
+  - Set Battery voltage to 48V.
+It is recommended to make these settings using the VictronConnect App and Bluetooth.
+** - All latest GX devices applicable.