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====== AC-coupled PV with Fronius PV Inverters ====== | ====== AC-coupled PV with Fronius PV Inverters ====== | ||
- | This document describes how to setup Victron Hub-2 and Off-grid systems with AC-coupled PV (micro grids), using Fronius PV Inverters. For Fronius information on the same subject, see their [[http:// | + | This document describes how to setup Energy-storage, |
- | Integrated | + | The Victron |
- | ===== Introduction to frequency shifting ===== | + | {{: |
+ | {{: | ||
- | To make sure that the Fronius PV inverter works well with Victron inverter/ | + | |
+ | ===== Frequency shifting ===== | ||
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+ | To make sure that the Fronius PV inverter works well with Victron inverter/ | ||
+ | * The Fronius PV Inverter must be set to Setup MG, short for Micro-Grid. | ||
+ | * For off-grid systems, load the Multi or Quattro with the PV Inverter support Assistant | ||
+ | * For on-grid / energy-storage systems, load the Multi or Quattro | ||
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+ | And the [[ac_coupling: | ||
===== Fronius / Victron specifics ===== | ===== Fronius / Victron specifics ===== | ||
- | With a Fronius PV inverter this is a very easy setup. The Fronius Setup MicroGrid (MG) has been developed in a very close cooperation with Victron | + | This is a very easy setup. The Fronius Setup Microgrid |
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- | * Tolerant voltage and frequency boundaries. | + | |
- | * Disable Anti-Islanding detection | + | |
- | * Frequency dependent power reduction according to the graph in the [[http:// | + | |
Compatible inverters are: | Compatible inverters are: | ||
- | * Fronius | + | * Fronius |
- | * Fronius Galvo (1~, 1.5 kW up to 3.1 kW) -> use latest FW | + | * Fronius Symo (3~, 3 kW up to 20 kW) -> Software // |
- | * Fronius Symo (3~, 3 kW up to 20 kW) -> use latest FW | + | * Fronius |
- | * Fronius | + | * Fronius |
- | * Fronius | + | * Fronius |
- | * Fronius | + | |
- | Recommended for new systems | + | For new systems the Symo and Eco inverters |
- | In case of PV modules that need to be grounded, | + | The use of Fronius Galvo inverters |
- | To have setup a system, always update both the Fronius and the Victron devices to their latest | + | When setting up a system, always update both the Fronius and the Victron devices to their latest |
+ | [[http:// | ||
- | ===== Setting up the Fronius with MG 50/60 ===== | + | ===== Setting up the Fronius with Setup MG50/MG60 ===== |
When not pre-ordered with a MicroGrid setup, follow these steps: | When not pre-ordered with a MicroGrid setup, follow these steps: | ||
- | - Make sure that the Fronius PV inverter is updated to at least the above mentioned | + | - Make sure that the Fronius PV inverter is updated to at least the firmware version |
- After making the inverter operational according to the manual, select the language and after this the country specific setup. | - After making the inverter operational according to the manual, select the language and after this the country specific setup. | ||
- Here choose MG50 or MG60 depending on the system frequency. | - Here choose MG50 or MG60 depending on the system frequency. | ||
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===== Setting up the Victron Multi or Quattro ===== | ===== Setting up the Victron Multi or Quattro ===== | ||
- | - After connecting the MultiPlus or Quattro with the Battery, you can now connect a computer through the VE.Bus (in combination with the Victron interface MK2USB) | + | - After connecting the MultiPlus or Quattro with the battery, you can now connect a computer through the VE.Bus (in combination with the Victron interface MK2USB) to configure the system with the latest |
- Go to the tab Assistants: \\ {{: | - Go to the tab Assistants: \\ {{: | ||
- Add one of the Assistants that regulate output frequency: | - Add one of the Assistants that regulate output frequency: | ||
- | - Self-consumption Hub-2 v2 | + | - [[ess: |
- | - Self-consumption Hub-2 v3 | + | |
- PV Inverter support | - PV Inverter support | ||
- | - Note that it is not necessary to change the default settings in the Assistant. The default settings work together with the default Fronius Micro-grid settings. \\ {{: | + | - Note that it is not necessary to change the default settings in the Assistant. \\ {{: |
- Complete the rest of the Assistant and write the new settings to the MultiPlus or Quattro. | - Complete the rest of the Assistant and write the new settings to the MultiPlus or Quattro. | ||
\\ | \\ | ||
- | ===== Frequently asked questions ===== | + | Table for settings for 50Hz and 60Hz frequency |
+ | | ** State ** | ** 50Hz ** | ** 60Hz ** |. | | ||
+ | | Start| 51.0 | 60.2|Hz| | ||
+ | | Minimum| 52.7 | 62.7|Hz| | ||
+ | | Disconnect| 53.0 | 63.0|Hz| \\ | ||
- | === Why don't the frequency settings in the Multi and the Fronius need to be the same? === | + | More information on adding Assistants is [[assistants: |
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+ | ===== Remote system monitoring ===== | ||
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+ | The Victron system can be monitored through Victron VRM Portal if a [[https:// | ||
+ | The Fronius PV inverter data can be [[ccgx: | ||
+ | So the VRM portal is the recommended monitoring platform also for AC-coupled installations. | ||
+ | |||
+ | However, also Fronius offers an equivalent monitoring solution. The Fronius portal is called Fronius Solar.web. The PV system data can be transfered to the portal if the inverter is equipped with a Datamanager 1.0 or Datamanager 2.0. | ||
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+ | The usage of both portals in parallel is possible. | ||
+ | |||
+ | A video instruction how to set up the Datamanager 2.0 + Solar.web can be found [[https:// | ||
+ | |||
+ | ===== Zero Feed-in ===== | ||
+ | |||
+ | It is possible to make a Zero feed-in system with Victron & Fronius. The Venus device will the control the Fronius output power. See the [[ess: | ||
+ | ===== Frequently Asked Questions ===== | ||
+ | |||
+ | ==== Q1 Why doesn't the frequency settings in the Multi and the Fronius need to be the same? ==== | ||
The first two frequencies do not need to be the same since the Multi actively regulates. | The first two frequencies do not need to be the same since the Multi actively regulates. | ||
- | === I have an Fronius IG inverter (not Plus), can that work? === | + | ==== Q2 I have an Fronius IG inverter (not Plus), can that work? ==== |
No, the IG inverters cannot be made to work in a MicroGrid system. The appropriate substitute for an IG 30 is the GALVO 2.5-1 or an IG Plus 25V-1 (depending on the desired DC voltage range). | No, the IG inverters cannot be made to work in a MicroGrid system. The appropriate substitute for an IG 30 is the GALVO 2.5-1 or an IG Plus 25V-1 (depending on the desired DC voltage range). | ||
+ | ==== Q3 The system is locked to 53 Hz and does not resume ==== | ||
+ | See [[: | ||
+ | ==== Q4 Can I use the Fronius Smart Meter? ==== | ||
+ | |||
+ | That depends on the type of system and software configuration. | ||
+ | |||
+ | A Fronius Smart Meter can be used in these two situations: | ||
+ | |||
+ | - when used only for reporting to Solarweb | ||
+ | - when used for limiting export, in a system where the Victron system is not configured as an ESS system. | ||
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+ | The Fronius Smart-Meter can not be used for the Fronius built-in export limiting feature when part of a Victron ESS system. Instead, use the Victron ESS Fronius Zero-feed in feature, see chapter 4.3.11, Fronius Zero Feed-in, in the [[ess: | ||
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+ | ==== Q5 How can I get the Fronius firmware that improves flickering? ==== | ||
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+ | Fronius has a special firmware available, on request, that fixes light flickering issues that occur on certain installations under certain circumstances. | ||
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+ | For Fronius PV inverters produced after 2018-week 16, contain the flicker-fix already straight from production. | ||
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+ | To update earlier and/or already installed PV Inverters, contact Fronius Tech Support for the file. The required file is fro29130.upd. Which works for all snap-inverter models (Primo, Symo and Eco). There is no, and will be no, fix available for Fronius Galvos. | ||
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+ | ===== DISQUS ===== | ||
~~DISQUS~~ | ~~DISQUS~~ | ||
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