{"id":9761,"date":"2017-05-25T15:02:20","date_gmt":"2017-05-25T13:02:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.victronenergy.com\/blog\/?p=9761"},"modified":"2017-06-05T05:52:38","modified_gmt":"2017-06-05T03:52:38","slug":"lessons-learned-thrusters-lithium-and-soc","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.victronenergy.com\/blog\/2017\/05\/25\/lessons-learned-thrusters-lithium-and-soc\/","title":{"rendered":"Lessons learned: Thrusters, Lithium and SOC"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Good day,<\/p>\n<p>Calling all dealers, designers and installers.<\/p>\n<p>Recently I&#8217;ve been involved in two technical support cases of which I want to share my insights and the lessons learned.<\/p>\n<p>The first is about Battery State of Charge, and especially for systems that include a Color Control GX or Venus GX. The various options can be quite confusing and initially we didn&#8217;t have a manual explaining them. We do now!<\/p>\n<p>See the SOC link below. Please take the time to study this carefully. Anyone involved with advising, designing or troubleshooting systems with the aforementioned devices should know this by heart:<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.victronenergy.com\/live\/ccgx:start#battery_state_of_charge_soc\" target=\"_blank\">Battery State of Charge (SOC)<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The second lesson concerns a typical marine topic: bow and\/or stern thrusters and their batteries. The conclusion is simple: don&#8217;t put thrusters on the house battery, especially don&#8217;t do so when using bms protected lithium for the house battery.<br \/>\nThe main reasons for that:<!--more--><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Combining thrusters on one battery with Multis and other electronics is not a good idea: spikes from thrusters cause issues and\/or damage to the connected electronics.<\/li>\n<li>Another reason why combining thrusters with house loads is not a good idea: using the thruster can empty the battery of the whole boat, instead of only its own battery.<\/li>\n<li>Having thrusters on a lithium battery with a BMS that will disconnect them in case of any issue is not a good idea either: just imagine a sudden cut out in the middle of a manoeuvre without pre-warning. Note that we do not give warranty on our batteries if there is no BMS with full disconnect installed, which basically rules out Victron lithium batteries for such purpose.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Instead opt for a simple separate battery, without a disconnect BMS. Then the helmsman will automatically be warned when the battery is at a low SOC: in that you&#8217;ll feel that the thrusters are losing power, rather than having to do without them, without any pre-warning.<\/p>\n<p>So please make sure not to advise nor accept such installations as a designer, dealer or installer.<\/p>\n<p>Have a good weekend!<\/p>\n<p>Matthijs<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Good day, Calling all dealers, designers and installers. Recently I&#8217;ve been involved in two technical support cases of which I want to share my insights and the lessons learned. The first is about Battery State of Charge, and especially for systems that include a Color Control GX or Venus GX. 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